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NFL Talk / Re: Colts draft surprise
« Last post by RT on Today at 04:31:44 AM »
Did it ever dawn on you that I may have just added some information to add prospective to the thread.

Is it possible that the reason the Patriots invested as much draft capital as they did in QB's over that period of time was because of Brady's age? Logic may lead some to think that. Brady is 6 years and 60 days older than Rodgers. When reviewing the amount of draft capital spent by the Patriots during the same age time frame we find an investment similar to what the Packers have invested in the last 6 years. The Patriots QB draft choices from 2004-2010,

2005 - Matt Cassel 
2008 - Kevin O'Connell
2010 - Zac Robinson

Hardly murderers row, Cassel was a 7th round pick out of USC that never started in college and has gone on to make a career in the NFL. I tip my hat to him. O'Connell held a clipboard his rookie season and then was gone. Robinson never made it out of training camp his rookie season, among their first cuts that year. No Jimmy Garroppolo type 2nd round investments there. The point is that they were not spending 2nd and 3rd round picks every other year on backup QB's when Brady was younger. Will the Packers start to invest in the QB position in the near future a little more heavily? Without doubt, but the Packers approach was and is the norm in all of the NFL including the Patriots.

I realize that factual information may screwup your narrative that TT is blame for everything that has ever gone wrong in the world, but believe it or not he is not the reason your car didn't start this winter. Teams take risks, some bigger than others, but it is the design of the NFL to have parity by not allowing teams to stockpile talent for long.

I mean please, now don't let TT make you stub your toe on that coffee table this morning. 
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Draft Talk / Re: Two RB's
« Last post by scoremore on April 24, 2018, 08:54:19 PM »
Mays could be a beast too.  Didn't get to see much of him last year.  We have 4 backs.  Monty, Jones, Williams, and Mays.  2 bruisers and 2 shifty guys.  Pretty well set.  If the opportunity presents itself to upgrade the position in the draft OK but the player would have to be pretty good to beat out our current stable.
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Draft Talk / Re: Packers 1st draft choice
« Last post by scoremore on April 24, 2018, 08:40:51 PM »
OK.  I trust you guys that Landry should be the pick.  But, as was just put out there, I don't think anyone should sleep on taking McGlinchey.  If someone takes Landry before 14 and a couple of the DB's go also - it may fall where he is the best value pick.  It won't be a sexy one, but penciling him in for the next 10 seasons at RT has to be considered.

I am not as sold on Landry as others.  He'll be there at 14.  He's only 6'2 and has short arms.  Not a pro-typical OLB  by any means.  Can't set the edge either.  He's a situational pass rusher.  On a trade back OK but don't think he's worthy at 14.  Guys I like better  Edmunds, Smith, Ward, James, Vea, and Payne.  One of them will be there.  Could throw Davenport in there as well but don't think he's worthy at 14 either.  Given the choice I'd take Davenport over Landry.  Don't like either of them at 14 the edge class is weak and they will be over drafted by somebody.  Just hope it's not us.  Got to go BPA with the first pick.  Have to extract maximum value regardless of need. Only a couple of days we'll see what Gute does.  We are going to get a good player just hope he stays true to his  board. 
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NFL Talk / Re: Colts draft surprise
« Last post by Gregg on April 24, 2018, 07:02:07 PM »
You know RT and Ricky I don't know what your argument is.

TT paid the price for not having a back up QB and so did we.

You are going to tell me that say in the last five years, we could not have invested a number two or three pick on a QB?

I mean please.

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Draft Talk / Re: Packers 1st draft choice
« Last post by dannobanano on April 24, 2018, 06:30:14 PM »
OK.  I trust you guys that Landry should be the pick.  But, as was just put out there, I don't think anyone should sleep on taking McGlinchey.  If someone takes Landry before 14 and a couple of the DB's go also - it may fall where he is the best value pick.  It won't be a sexy one, but penciling him in for the next 10 seasons at RT has to be considered.

Not that I'm against bookend pro-bowl type OT's, but where do they find the $$$ to afford to keep two guys like that?

On average two top OT's (left and right) will count (by current cap numbers) about $27M/year against your salary cap.
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Draft Talk / Re: Two RB's
« Last post by dannobanano on April 24, 2018, 06:25:58 PM »
So, you want to draft replacement clones for Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones? Interesting.

Williams - 213#
Jones - 208#

How is a 6'2" 230# bruiser a clone of one of these RB's?

Williams is a tough, tough runner. He usually takes the first hit and keeps on churning, and usually got yards after contact. He was a bruising RB. Jones, before the injury, proved to be a back with some moves to evade tacklers. So, you have a good pair of RBs. Both also showed the ability to catch passes. Now, the knock on Jones, in particular, was not an adequate blocker, which is of course necessary in the Packers system. So, would getting a heavier back improve the running game a great deal? If so, why not use Ripkowski more often? A third day addition, sure. Anything earlier, no thanks.

Neither of the players mentioned in the OP will likely get drafted before the 4th-5th rounds.

So you should be cool on this!  thumbsup)

Also, there's more than a fair chance Ripkowski gets replaced this year. He's not a great lead blocker, I guess.
(Think Austin Ramesh)  ;D
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Draft Talk / Re: Packers 1st draft choice
« Last post by phanatic1 on April 24, 2018, 06:02:29 PM »
OK.  I trust you guys that Landry should be the pick.  But, as was just put out there, I don't think anyone should sleep on taking McGlinchey.  If someone takes Landry before 14 and a couple of the DB's go also - it may fall where he is the best value pick.  It won't be a sexy one, but penciling him in for the next 10 seasons at RT has to be considered. 
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Draft Talk / Re: Two RB's
« Last post by ricky on April 24, 2018, 05:40:52 PM »
So, you want to draft replacement clones for Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones? Interesting.

Williams - 213#
Jones - 208#

How is a 6'2" 230# bruiser a clone of one of these RB's?

Williams is a tough, tough runner. He usually takes the first hit and keeps on churning, and usually got yards after contact. He was a bruising RB. Jones, before the injury, proved to be a back with some moves to evade tacklers. So, you have a good pair of RBs. Both also showed the ability to catch passes. Now, the knock on Jones, in particular, was not an adequate blocker, which is of course necessary in the Packers system. So, would getting a heavier back improve the running game a great deal? If so, why not use Ripkowski more often? A third day addition, sure. Anything earlier, no thanks.
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Draft Talk / Re: Packers 1st draft choice
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on April 24, 2018, 05:12:01 PM »
Do not rule out OT McGlinchey at 14.  Hes the best OT in this draft.  Can you really rely on Bulaga much longer???  Whoever is playing there at RT to start will likely be inexperienced and will get blocking help from Jimmy Graham who blocks as well as my Grandma.  I'm not liking that setup already.   McGlinchey might be a good investment for Rodgers future.  the D needs help bad, but.........   

I prefer Connor Williams to McGlinchey, though that does depend on him passing his medical.
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Draft Talk / Re: Packers 1st draft choice
« Last post by The GM on April 24, 2018, 05:06:54 PM »
Do not rule out OT McGlinchey at 14.  Hes the best OT in this draft.  Can you really rely on Bulaga much longer???  Whoever is playing there at RT to start will likely be inexperienced and will get blocking help from Jimmy Graham who blocks as well as my Grandma.  I'm not liking that setup already.   McGlinchey might be a good investment for Rodgers future.  the D needs help bad, but.........   
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