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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Did everyone know this?
« Last post by marklawrence on June 18, 2018, 04:50:57 PM »
It was pretty clear this was the case when they announced Gutekunst was hired as GM.  In some ways, the decision makes sense-

Murphy is not like Jerry Jones, in that Murphy's a football guy- he had a reasonable career as a player, then got into the business of football.  He is much better positioned to make big football decisions than the typical owner who got into that position just by being a wealthy fan.

You're mistaken. Jerry Jones was a db and played with Jimmy Johnson.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: UDFA's heading to training camp
« Last post by marklawrence on June 18, 2018, 04:49:23 PM »
QB - Tim Boyle

From Rob Demovsky

Rookie QB Tim Boyle, who for some reason got team reps ahead of DeShone Kizer, hit J’Mon Moore in stride for a 41-yard TD.

Almost all of the feed coming out of the OTA's about Boyle has been very positive. Should be fun to watch unfold.

Kizer is effectively about a second round pick. He's already made the team unless he seriously screws up - like drugs, girls, police all at one time. He's here for QB school, to get his mechanics rebuilt. He needs to practice footwork and arm motion; reps just keep him doing it wrong.

Boyle, by contrast, has to pick up the play book and show something really good to have a shot at #3, and he has to show some serious potential to make the PC. So he gets the reps.

Makes sense to me.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / UDFA's heading to training camp
« Last post by RT on June 18, 2018, 04:39:31 PM »
Every year a UDFA or 2 or more win their way on to the 53 against long odds. Here are a few comments and thoughts on this year crop from OTA's.

QB - Tim Boyle

From Rob Demovsky

Rookie QB Tim Boyle, who for some reason got team reps ahead of DeShone Kizer, hit J’Mon Moore in stride for a 41-yard TD.

Almost all of the feed coming out of the OTA's about Boyle has been very positive. Should be fun to watch unfold.

TE's - Kevin Rader and Ryan Smith

The news so far on these two has been slim to none. Rader did get a mention in the first OTA from a Packers beat writer about a nice red-zone TD catch, but that is it for what I have found. Zero on Smith.

OL - Alex Light, Kyle Meadows and Austin Davis

The only mention of these 3 was Light jumping offsides and being removed from a drill. In all fairness to the OL and blocking drills, we really won't get any hand-me-down information until the pads go on.

DL - Tyler Lancaster and Conor Sheehy

This really is similar to the OL in that until they are in pads it is hard to tell much, but interesting enough Lancaster has drawn praise from his DL coach twice already. Worth watching to see how he develops.

OLB - Naashon Hughes

Nothing yet, crickets.

ILB - Parris Bennett, C.J. Johnson, Marcus Porter, Greer Martini

Of this group Martini got some great praise from one of the defensive coaches on how fast he is playing and how well he is catching on. Sorry I forgot which coach, but it was in one of the pressers by the asst. coaches on thursday on Packers.com.

S - Raven Greene

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Awhile back I had mentioned when the #Packers picked up UDFA Raven Greene, that he could be a real dark horse to make the final roster. I still believe that's a real possibility.

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And Tim Boyle comes back to life a bit as he throws a pick to Raven Greene in the red zone.

Their has been something good from Greene on almost a daily basis at OTA's, I think he has given a very positive impression to the coaching staff. I thought that he had a pick of Rodgers early on, but can't seem to find that now.

Of what I have seen, it looks like Boyle on the offensive side of the ball and Lancaster, Martini and Greene on the defensive side of the ball have started the fastest of the UDFA's. This can all change quickly when the pads go on. 

 

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NFL Talk / Re: Eddie Lacy Sighting
« Last post by Bignutz on June 18, 2018, 12:26:06 PM »
Really stunning what happened to him.

Once he left GB, he just sunk.

That’s sad. He seemed like a good kid.
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NFL Talk / Re: Eddie Lacy Sighting
« Last post by scoremore on June 18, 2018, 04:21:36 AM »
He tore up his ankle.  The Packers foolishly kept playing him without letting the ankle heal.  Usually they are extremely cautious with injuries but not in this case.  He was never the same after that. 
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NFL Talk / Re: The Vikes have me worried
« Last post by marklawrence on June 17, 2018, 10:43:09 PM »
Shhh don't tell anyone, but the facts suggest that a top defense is more important than a top QB.

Trent Dilfer and Eli Manning would be testimony to that.
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NFL Talk / Re: The Vikes have me worried
« Last post by raptorman on June 17, 2018, 08:00:25 PM »
Last year the Patriots ranked 29th in team defense. And made the SB. And lost because they benched Butler for unknown reasons, and a defensive play by the Eagles. I tried finding the defensive rankings for every SB year, but apparently will have to go year-by-year to amass that stat. I'll get back to you later.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2017&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

The key stat here is scoring defense. I have done this exercise many times in the past and I think you will find it is a rare exception to have a team in the SB that is not top 5 in scoring defense. Last year the Eagles were 4th at 18.4 and the Patriots were 5th at 18.5. The last time the Packers were in the SB they were 2nd in scoring defense at 15 per game and the Steelers were 1st at 14.5. At season end, look and see who are the top 5 scoring defenses are in the NFL and you will have the list of the real contenders to win it all.

Where did you get those stats? Because I found very different rankings for team scoring defense. Just curious.

Yards per game doesn't matter.  Passer rating doesn't matter.  Passing yardage doesn't matter.  What matters is point per game given up on defense.  Now, I'm not saying this will guarantee a win. But in the history of the Super Bowl, the winner is in the top 8 of Points per game on defense something like 90% of the time.   The average for the winner is 4th in points per game on defense.   FWIW, the Packers Super Bowl victories, their defense's were 1, 3, 1, and 2 in points per game on defense.    Only 5 teams outside the top 10 in points per game during the season have ever won a Super Bowl.  The Giants did it twice with Manning, the Colts once, Oakland, and San Francisco.
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NFL Talk / Re: The Vikes have me worried
« Last post by RT on June 17, 2018, 06:50:57 PM »
Super Bowl winners and their scoring defense ranking.

2018 Philadelphia Eagles - 4th /18.4
2017 New England Patriots - 1st / 15.6
2016 Denver Broncos -  4th /18.5
2015 New England Patriots - 8th / 19.6     *Seahawks were 1st that year at 15.9 and was the main reason I thought they would win that game.
2014 Seattle Seahawks - 1st / 14.4

Going back to the Packers in 1997, they were the number one ranked defense that year. The Ravens teams, the Giants teams, the Buccaneers team and most of the Patriots teams all had top defenses the years they won Super Bowls.

Shhh don't tell anyone, but the facts suggest that a top defense is more important than a top QB. 
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NFL Talk / Re: The Vikes have me worried
« Last post by RT on June 17, 2018, 06:22:12 PM »
Last year the Patriots ranked 29th in team defense. And made the SB. And lost because they benched Butler for unknown reasons, and a defensive play by the Eagles. I tried finding the defensive rankings for every SB year, but apparently will have to go year-by-year to amass that stat. I'll get back to you later.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2017&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

The key stat here is scoring defense. I have done this exercise many times in the past and I think you will find it is a rare exception to have a team in the SB that is not top 5 in scoring defense. Last year the Eagles were 4th at 18.4 and the Patriots were 5th at 18.5. The last time the Packers were in the SB they were 2nd in scoring defense at 15 per game and the Steelers were 1st at 14.5. At season end, look and see who are the top 5 scoring defenses are in the NFL and you will have the list of the real contenders to win it all.

Where did you get those stats? Because I found very different rankings for team scoring defense. Just curious.
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I used the link that you provided ricky.
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On the Streets / Goliath
« Last post by Bignutz on June 17, 2018, 06:08:26 PM »
If you have Amazon Prime, check this series out. Season 2 just came out. Great show starring Billy Bob Thorton as an alcoholic lawyer. Tania Raymonde is super hot too!
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