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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Time to Trade Aaron
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on April 17, 2018, 12:13:42 PM »
Looks like some people are trying to talk themselves into a disaster-type situation.
Draft Talk / Re: Big Boards
« Last post by RT on April 17, 2018, 11:38:30 AM »
EDGE (3-4 outside LB's and some 4-3 DE's) players that possibly are on the Packers board.

Bradley Chubb, N.Carolina State - Concensus top 10 pick.

Harold Landry, Boston College - May well be the best pure passrusher in the draft this year. Many believe he will be the Packers first choice. 1st

Marcus Davenport, UTSA - Drafting more on potential than production for now. Very high ceiling. 1st

Josh Sweat, Florida State - Has been a hot name in this process. Measurables suggest success at the NFL level. 1st/2nd

Sam Hubbard, Ohio State - Excellent short area testing. Opinions seem to vary a bit, will be interesting where he is drafted. My guess is late 2nd/early 3rd.

Rasheem Green,USC - Probably a true 4-3 DE, but a player I like fairly well. May have a little too much of a Datone Jones look for some, but hopefully he has a better head on him. 2/3

Lorenzo Carter, Georgia - Outstanting athlete who doesn't always play up to his ability. His best football may still be ahead of him. Scores 100 on RAS. 2/3

Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma - Explosive testing numbers and the production to go along with it. Probably one of the 5 best pure passrushers in the draft. 2/3

Uchenna Nwosu, USC - Another who grades out very well as a pass rusher, should help a team early. 3rd

Kemoko Turay, Rutgers - Excellent size/speed guy who was very productive when he played. Fought some injuries last season. Would love to see him a Packer. 3rd

Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest - Very effective pass rusher with good size at 6'3.5"/ 265. Some medical. 3/4

Chad Thomas, Miami - Probably a true 4-3 DE , but has size to play in a 3-4 end spot. Could he be part of a Pettine plan? 4th

Kylie Fitts, Utah - Very Productive college player. Another I would mind seeing the Packers take a chance on. Some medical. 4/5

Dorance Armstrong, Kansas - Has been a game-disrupting pass rusher at times. Mixed opinions. 4/5

Tyquan Lewis, Ohio State - Is a player the Packers have spent time with. Excellent size 6'3"/ 269. 4/5

Joe Ostman, C. Michigan - High effort, nonstop motor. Great college production. Wrestling background. 5/6

Peter Kalambayi, Stanford - A natural on stunts and games up front. Seems to have plateau'd. 5/6

Ade Aruna, Tulane - Another with excellent size. Good speed off the edge as a pass rusher. 5/6

Hercules Mata'afa, Washington State - Great college production as a DT at 6'2"/ 254. Is a project to the NFL, is a playmaker if someone figures out how to use him. 5/6

Trevon Young, Lousville - Excellent size, tested very well at the combine. Explosive pass-rusher, but has some injury history. 5/6

Garret Dooley, Wisconsin - Scheme advantage. Tested much better than people thought he would. Late bloomer. 7/UDFA

Mike Love, S.Florida - Under the radar guy the Packers spent time with at his pro-day and now brought in for a 30 visit. Guessing he is a 7/UDFA type.

Their is a lot of volume here. I think their is quite a few players that can add depth and be solid players for the Packers here. I don't know if their is a high number of pro bowlers thou. Should be a fun group to watch unfold over the 3 days of the draft.
Draft Talk / Re: Is the 1st round coming into focus?
« Last post by WTX_Cheese on April 17, 2018, 10:51:04 AM »
Personally, I think it will be one of these guys:

1.) Josh Jackson
2.) Harold Landry
3.) Leighton Vander Esch

My preference would be for a pass rusher as I think there will be a GOOD Corner available to them in the 2nd round. I think the Derwin James stuff is a little bit of a smoke-screen as I think Josh Jones could probably do some similar things as to what James could offer. I've been on the LVE bandwagon this past week or so.
Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Time to Trade Aaron
« Last post by PackerJoe on April 17, 2018, 09:41:09 AM »
ROdgers is just one shoulder hit away from retirement.  MAybe Elway calls next year and we address this.

Problem is this regime has not groomed a replacement!  Billy, Bob joe Callahan, be serious, Hundley, no way Dekizer, stunk at ND at best was a fifth rd pick.  His own coach and teammates threw him under the bus.
Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Packers had a trade for Hundley
« Last post by PackerJoe on April 17, 2018, 09:36:15 AM »
the only place they could trade Hundley too is back to college!
Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: surprise! packers cornerbacks still suck
« Last post by PackerJoe on April 17, 2018, 09:33:46 AM »
They are weak, Williams acquisition will help dumping Burnett will help, moving Jones to safety will help.

Having a defensive coordinator that actually coaches the db's will help a whole lot!
Draft Talk / Re: Is the 1st round coming into focus?
« Last post by PackerJoe on April 17, 2018, 09:30:23 AM »
I'll take a different viewpoint, with twelve picks this year and whatever you want throw in from next year ( like a 3 rd'er), I'm movingly up for an elite defensive player.

Draft Talk / Re: Cornerbacks... who do you like?
« Last post by PackerJoe on April 17, 2018, 09:22:52 AM »
If I had to guess on the height size, I'd say Craig Newsome or the guy we cut who's an all pro in San Diego now.  I know a lot of teams like bigger corners.  I think the bigger question is when is the last time we had an all pro CB Shields?
Draft Talk / Re: WR draft prospects
« Last post by RT on April 17, 2018, 08:20:59 AM »
RT - do you know where St. Brown falls on your list of reqs?   Testing areas he fell short in?

I cannot answer if he falls short or not because for some reason he chose not to test at the combine or the Notre Dame pro-day. Here is a link to the Notre Dame pro-day results.


He has the size and straight-line speed, but does he have that short area ability to stick his foot in the ground and cut? He can hide from testing, but the Packers know from his tape what he is and isn't. But for us it will be incomplete data all the way to the draft. My unsolicited opinion would be that he is not on the Packers board based on the very small sample of plays I have watched of him (about 15), combined with his unwillingness to do a 3-cone drill, 20 or 60 yard shuttle suggests that he knows he would perform poorly. IMO     

I actually really like what I've seen from ESB.   Stumbled upon this article (and a new time-wasting website)- definitely worth a read.   Metrics might change some opinions and good read on ESB's route running capabilities.   Matt Harmon happens to like ESB way more than Chark from LSU if people like their deep speed receivers.


Thanks for the link, some good info.
Draft Talk / Re: Who do you take?
« Last post by RT on April 17, 2018, 08:14:23 AM »
If the regime is smart they will trade up with TB or SF.  THis years number 1 and 5b(comp pick) and next years 3rd rd pick. 

I want Uhrlache, Lewis, kuechly palying ILB for us.  Draft Roquan Smith!  need talent and speed at ILB.  all the LB's on this roster are slow.  I'm glad they are looking at the kid from SW Miss St.  I want talent and speed at that position.  MArtinez showed great improvement, but he is a liability in pass coverage. Ryan is a good 3rd stringers, maybe Biegel does something this year.  TEgray Scales from Indiana would be a good pick in the 5-6 rd.

Smith is a outstanding football player and would be a great addition to any team. The rest of the post seems uninformed, IMO. The 'kid from SW Miss St.', is Southeast Missouri State outside linebacker Kendall Donnerson the player you are refering to? If it is he does have speed, but he is an EDGE player and that talent has yet to show up on the field. Here is a scouts opinion,

Donnerson’s tape is nowhere near draftable in terms of his skill set, but from an athletic standpoint, his testing numbers are beyond rare for his size. Donnerson is a project that teams might not be willing to draft, but will be more than happy to stash on the practice squad as a PFA while they try and improve his technique and skill, hoping to unlock his athletic gifts. At this point, Donnerson is no more than a lottery scratch-off with the potential for a tremendous pay-off, but with the odds against it.

Martinez is a young acsending player who is reaching fringe Pro Bowl statis. He is part of the solution, not part of the problem. Biegel is an EDGE player who may get moved around in some packages, but is not an inside LB.

Tegray Scales is 6'0"/230 and ran 4.77/40 with a 2.77/20 split suggesting a lack of short area speed. Not only would he be the smallest LBer, he would be the slowest. Hardly the solution to your perceived problem.
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