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Offline Scott1956

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Different year, same tired defense!
« on: September 17, 2017, 08:02:37 PM »
I love how all the Capers and TT apologists come out of the woodwork when the Packers defense plays a High School offensive line. Sure they looked great, the team they were playing is offensively inept! You see what happens when you play a fast defense. A REAL actual fast defense! In the first half, they were nowhere near ANY of the Falcons WR's! The second half, the Falcons just wanted this game to end, so they started running the ball more. And the Packers couldn't stop that. I'm getting tired of every year the Packers draft defensive players, and every one saying "now we have the players", and every year the defense sucks. Oh I'm sure they will play well enough to beat teams like the Bears and the Vikings. But if you think this team will do anything if they get to the playoffs, you're just fooling yourself. How many more years do we have to put up with Capers, and his 1980's defensive playbook?

Offline Kepler

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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2017, 06:32:38 AM »
There you are!

Offline ricky

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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 08:14:38 AM »
It seems we're always going to have those who overreact to each game, and sometimes even each play. Which is fine, but it's also important to keep the perspective of the entire season. Last week the defense looked great. This week, not so much. The team is still a work in progress. Nothing is set in stone. Even the idea that Atlanta can't be beat is an overreaction. Remember, the Packers lost the regular season game last year by one point, when they were relatively healthy. Beaten up the last next two games, they were defeated handily. What is important is whether the team progressses each week.This was definitely a step back.But does that mean the defense stinks? No. Just as the impressive performance they had week one didn't mean they were great. So, fire Capers? How about the defensive position coaches? They are the ones who work with the guys very closely. Shouldn't they get some blame? How about TT for not drafting better? Why not simply clean house completely? Bring in a new GM, who will hire his own HC who will hire his own staff. And then the defense will be much better.
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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 05:37:02 PM »
meh

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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2017, 12:22:42 AM »
Ill be one of the first to support a change in regime. I am not a fan of how Capers calls games, even if the players are executing, Capers usually starts to get away from what has worked all game for some unknown reason. Heck I think MM is overrated in his ability to call plays and run an offense. He ran the SF offense for I believe two years, and it was ugly. He inherits back to back HOF quarterbacks, one who may be the most talented ever, and still can not adjust his game plan or formulate a well-oiled offensive plan. But right now I believe the DB coach should be shown the door. Healthy or not, the Packer DB's are always whiffing tackles, mistiming jumps for the ball, not meeting a guy in their zone or trailing one through their zone, passing off a receiver to open field because they didnt understand they were on an island that play etc. They are bad, really bad. The front 7 this year has brought pressure, but the DB's can not cover just that extra second to turn this defense into a real terror. Thats my two cents.
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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2017, 01:35:04 PM »
Statistics don't lie and over the course of the last 5 years this defense has been at the bottom half...sure they have a good game once in awhile but I am not sure they have ever showed up big against tough opponents at critical times. At some point you can't keep doing the same thing over and over...either Capers needs to go or Thompson...its either the players or the coordinator..

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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2017, 06:37:08 PM »
Watched the Bears and Saints off and on today - and can't help to compare their defensive game plan against the Saints vs. the Packers of last week.  Brees did complete 22 of 28 or something like that, but for only 230 yards.  A lot of short things.  Ingram held to 70 yards and no WR goes off.  The Bears put decent pressure on Brees - 2 or 3 sacks - but put him under some consistent pressure.  No receivers were running uncovered through the middle of the defense. 

The Bears offense is just putrid.  But, they were in the game because they had a defensive coordinator that put together a solid game plan and understood the limitations of his offense.  No communication errors - no 10 men on the field - and no issues with the late subs by the Saints.  Put pressure on Brees and then tackle. 

Right now, the Packers are the worst defense in the division.  Not only on the field, but also on the sideline - or booth I guess. 

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Re: Different year, same tired defense!
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2017, 10:46:47 PM »
I love how all the Capers and TT apologists come out of the woodwork when the Packers defense plays a High School offensive line. Sure they looked great, the team they were playing is offensively inept! You see what happens when you play a fast defense. A REAL actual fast defense! In the first half, they were nowhere near ANY of the Falcons WR's! The second half, the Falcons just wanted this game to end, so they started running the ball more. And the Packers couldn't stop that. I'm getting tired of every year the Packers draft defensive players, and every one saying "now we have the players", and every year the defense sucks. Oh I'm sure they will play well enough to beat teams like the Bears and the Vikings. But if you think this team will do anything if they get to the playoffs, you're just fooling yourself. How many more years do we have to put up with Capers, and his 1980's defensive playbook?

Then you haven't been reading this or other Packers forums since Rodgers got hurt.  The vast majority of posts on Packers' forums all over are talking about how it is well past time to move on from Dom Capers and hope either MM finally sees the light or Dom "retires".