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Offline The GM

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Re: Bryant to GB?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2018, 02:01:24 PM »
No. A problem waiting to happen. He is too- excitable for my taste. He'll get into the faces of coaches, and probably Rodgers sooner or later if he thinks he's open and the pass goes elsewhere. Volatile to me, passionate to to others. Besides, he's going to want a big payday, if not immediately, then very soon. He also doesn't seem to be able to take any responsibility for his actions. Its all someone else, or a conspiracy, or something. But its not him:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/13/dez-bryant-blames-coaches-his-former-teammates-who-are-garretts-guys-for-his-release/

Agree, I can see him flinging his helmet, screaming at teammates on the sidelines.  In this offense, you have to be prepared to NOT get the ball.  The ball is spread around.  Ask yourself this, when was the last time you saw a Packer WR blow up about not getting balls thrown his way?    Its been awhile, and now is not the time to start.

You might hear about some vague interest by the Packers, but IMO that is more about Gute keeping the Packers name alive in any FA talks. 

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Re: Dez Bryant
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2018, 04:19:11 PM »
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Fan of former team: "He sucked, we're better off without him."

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Their is a reason the former team doesn't want them around anymore and it isn't just about money. If the Packers would of tried a little bit, they could of kept Nelson around for something just over the minimum. They didn't offer because they really didn't want his services anymore. The same go's for Bryant. Father time wins every battle.

Green Bay did offer him a new deal with a large pay cut and Nelson quickly declined.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/packers-free-agency-2018/2018/3/15/17127988/packers-contract-offer-to-jordy-nelson-was-embarrassing-according-to-james-jones

Packers had their number and weren't willing to budge.

Nowhere in my post did I say the Packers didn't offer a reduced deal. I said, " If the Packers would of tried a little bit" and that is exactly what Nelson said 11 days after the acticle you provided a link to. This is Nelson comment, “The ‘hurt’ part was the unwillingness to make it work.”

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/26/jordy-nelson-hurt-by-lack-of-contract-negotiation-with-packers/

No but you also claimed if that offer was "something just over the minimum" they could have kept him. They lowballed him and he did not accept.

Thank you for enlarging the point of the original post and highlighting that they no longer wanted his services. Glad you were able to connect those 2 dots. Good job you.

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Re: Bryant to GB?
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2018, 04:28:15 PM »
Dez is a vet.  He's got plenty left.  Yes he could definitely help the Pack.  What's the price tag?  How would he fit in the locker room?  Those are my biggest concerns with the guy.  Gute should probably do his due diligence whether he becomes a Packer or not I don't know but would say odds are very slim.  Can't look for a rookie WR to come in and make an impact.  Just never happens.  Allison all he does is make plays whenever he's out there.  Clark and Yancey like those guys too.  Davis?  Dunno if he'll ever be a factor at WR.  So we have 3 potential guys that could step up.  Hit on one and we are ok with the guys we have.

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Re: Bryant to GB?
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2018, 07:42:51 PM »
Man, one side of me really wants to see Dez opposite Adams.

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Re: Bryant to GB?
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2018, 09:29:47 PM »
Man, one side of me really wants to see Dez opposite Adams.

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Re: Dez Bryant
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2018, 07:55:39 AM »
Thank you for enlarging the point of the original post and highlighting that they no longer wanted his services. Glad you were able to connect those 2 dots. Good job you.

They did want his services though, contrary to your point. They DID offer him exactly what you described as "something just over the minimum", likely a bit more, in an effort to keep him.   

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2018, 09:07:26 AM »
They did want his services though, contrary to your point. They DID offer him exactly what you described as "something just over the minimum", likely a bit more, in an effort to keep him.

If they wanted to keep him, he'd still be on the team. They offered him an insulting low contract. Nelson instead moved on. So, did they offer m  a contract? Yes. Was it a realistic attempt to keep him on the roster? No. To illustrate, league minimum for players with 10+ years experience is a little over $1 million. The Raiders signed him for two years for about $7 million a year. Though realistically, this is a one year contract, since they'd have no dead cap if they cut him next year. Could the Packers have done the same? I think it was within their grasp if they had wanted to keep him.

Here are the numbers NFL vet minimums salaries: https://landryfootball.com/understanding-nfl-minimum-salaries-veteran-cap-benefit-rule-free/

Here are the numbers for the Raiders: https://overthecap.com/player/jordy-nelson/1121
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Re: Dez Bryant
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2018, 03:50:45 PM »
They did want his services though, contrary to your point. They DID offer him exactly what you described as "something just over the minimum", likely a bit more, in an effort to keep him.

If they wanted to keep him, he'd still be on the team. They offered him an insulting low contract. Nelson instead moved on. So, did they offer m  a contract? Yes. Was it a realistic attempt to keep him on the roster? No. To illustrate, league minimum for players with 10+ years experience is a little over $1 million. The Raiders signed him for two years for about $7 million a year. Though realistically, this is a one year contract, since they'd have no dead cap if they cut him next year. Could the Packers have done the same? I think it was within their grasp if they had wanted to keep him.

Here are the numbers NFL vet minimums salaries: https://landryfootball.com/understanding-nfl-minimum-salaries-veteran-cap-benefit-rule-free/

Here are the numbers for the Raiders: https://overthecap.com/player/jordy-nelson/1121

We don't know the exact number of the offered contract. I doubt it was the league minimum, 4 or 5 million seems about right to me. Considering the Raiders gave him 7, 4-5 million is a fair assumption and also a very low offer. They wanted to keep him at their number not his.

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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2018, 08:45:45 PM »
We don't know the exact number of the offered contract. I doubt it was the league minimum, 4 or 5 million seems about right to me. Considering the Raiders gave him 7, 4-5 million is a fair assumption and also a very low offer. They wanted to keep him at their number not his.

"Just over league minimum" would be four or five times as much? That is not "a little over the league minimum" IMO. We'll probably never know the real offer, unless Jordy decides to share it. 
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Re: Dez Bryant
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2018, 08:05:35 PM »
Current rumors are that Dez wants to play for the Giants, and the team that is most interested in him is the Ravens.

I'm perfectly comfortable predicting he won't be a packer.
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