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Draft Talk / QB run alters big board and helps Packers a ton
« Last post by NOLAPackerfan on February 16, 2018, 12:54:36 PM »
Realizing every "expert" site is going to have different rankings, and everything will change a lot after the combine, I think the Packers really luck out this year, and I don't see many ways BG can screw up his first pick.  I think the Packers really luck out with the sheer number of teams looking for QBs.  I honestly don't think any of these QBs should be in the top 10 of a big board for this class, but I think 3-5 will for sure go before pick 14. 

This essentially gives the Packers a top ten pick based on position player talent level.  That being said, look at my personal big board and it's significance to who pick 14 could be (note the 4 QBs listed as A-D are displayed out of place on the big board simply because I do not believe they belong in the top 10-12 picks, but do believe their selections will be foregone conclusions unless any of them royally screw up their combines or interviews):

A) Darnold
B) Rosen
C) Mayfield
D) Allen
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5) S Barkley, RB
6) B Chubb, DE
7) Q Nelson, OG
8) M Fitzpatrick, S/CB
9) D James, S
10) T Edmunds, OLB/Edge
11) J Jackson, CB
12) R Smith, ILB
13) C Ridley, WR
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14) M McGlinchey, OT
15) D Ward, CB
16) V Vea, DT/NT
17) H Landry, OLB/Edge
18) C Williams, OT
19) D Guice, RB
20) A Key, OLB/Edge
21) C Kirk, WR
22) M Davenport, OLB/Edge

Other than the OT's, which I don't really see as a need at this time, I think any of the guys listed from 14-22 could really help the Packers.  Furthermore, pretty much all the guys listed from 5-13 would also fill need areas, so if the combine shakes up the big board, or teams start picking odd, I feel like we really can't make a "bad" pick, at least based on first impressions (anyone can go bad in retrospect).

I think under this scenario, I'd be rooting hard for Landry or Key...with the dark horse being Vea.  I think Landry and Vea are your safe, multiple pro-bowl type players, while Key is higher upside, but bigger bust potential. While DT isn't really a pressing need, I'd have a hard time personally passing on Vea.  I think he will blow up the combine and probably shoot into the top ten picks by running a 4.7 40 at 340 lbs.  A 3-4 DL featuring Daniels, Clark and Vea could be dominant and take up a lot of double teams, allowing the scheme to free up guys like CM3, Perry, Fackrell and Biegel or anyone drafted later rounds or signed in FA.

In round 1, I'd almost prefer a CB to any other position, but I just don't see any that are perfect fits for the scheme, so you go the next best route and help the pass rush however you can.

In round 2 I'd be hoping for a press CB or a WR with elite speed.  I think James Washington could fit that mold, but he may require a trade up unless his game speed isn't reflected at the combine.

If we don't find a speed WR in this draft, I'd be all for cutting Cobb and signing a guy like Moncrief, Albert Wilson or jaron brown maybe.  I think any of those guys would help lift the top while Davonte and Nelson run their normal route trees.

The later rounds we definitely need some OG, RT prospects, more WR depth, and more pass rushers and I think we can be solid.
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Draft Talk / Re: Round two targets
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on February 16, 2018, 04:56:12 AM »
I want to see Spriggs in year three and how Bulaga comes back before i spend a second rounder on a tackle. I do understand if you want a decent OT, he should come in the first two rounds, but I just don't think this is the year for that (though next year a first or second round OT might be the right pick). I'm in on WR for the second pick (after pass rusher in the first).

Guys like Oklahoma State's James Washington (who has fallen some on draft sites, down from a mid-first round spot), or Colorado state's Michael Gallup, would do very nicely as a flanker opposite Adams.
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Draft Talk / Round two targets
« Last post by gr8gonzo on February 15, 2018, 07:56:46 PM »
Assuming GB retains the 75th pick 2 players I would target are OT Tyrell Crosby of Oregon or Jaire Alexander CB from Louisville.
With the uncertainty surrounding Buluga being available at the start of the season Crosby could be plugged in and start the next 10 years. A LT in College he is projected to move to the right side in the pros.
Alexander an underclassman has been steadily moving up in the eyes of many scouts.
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Draft Talk / Re: With the 14th pick in the 2018 NFL draft...
« Last post by dannobanano on February 15, 2018, 03:23:10 PM »
The more I read about Harold Landry and his 2017 injury (happened in the 5th game against Virginia Tech), the more I am interested to see his measurables and performance at the NFL Combine.

If he's more like the player of 2016 rather than 2017, then I can get more excited about this player and what he might offer to the Packers pass rush.
I did read a piece that projects as a better player for a 4-3 defense as opposed to 3-4.

Not sold on him yet, but not discarding him as a prospect either.
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NFL Talk / Re: Manziel attempting a comeback
« Last post by dannobanano on February 15, 2018, 03:04:28 PM »
He says he's been diagnosed as bipolar.

Maybe is he gets on some good meds and can get his head back on straight he might be able to salvage somewhat of a career.
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NFL Talk / Re: Manziel attempting a comeback
« Last post by ricky on February 15, 2018, 12:57:47 AM »
https://www.foxsports.com/san-diego/story/johnny-manziel-attempting-a-football-comeback-021418

Best of luck to him. But signing him? No thanks. This is why you keep that 12 foot Hungarian around- because you don't want to touch this guy with a ten foot Pole.
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The Pro Football Hall of Fame: Both Boyd Dowler and Ron Kramer Deserve Consideration

By Bob Fox



https://greenbaybobfox.wordpress.com/2018/02/14/the-pro-football-hall-of-fame-both-boyd-dowler-and-ron-kramer-deserve-consideration/
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Packers have hardest 2018 schedule
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on February 13, 2018, 12:02:39 PM »
Preseason strength of schedule doesn't mean that much, as it depends on what the other teams were last year, not what they will be next year. I've seen the Packers SOS move form one of the harder schedules to one of the easier ones pre and post season.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Packers have hardest 2018 schedule
« Last post by ricky on February 12, 2018, 02:53:37 PM »
Well, to be "the man", you've got to beat "the man". Besides, this is going to be a new season.Injuries, luck and teams that over and under achieve are going to be different from last year. There is also the draft, free agency (losing and gaining), guys who suddenly tank and those who have career years (I'm looking at you, Case Keenum). So, the hardest schedule is hard to actually predict. But, thanks for the post, Mark. No pun intended. 
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