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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Gute interested in Khalil Mack
« Last post by dannobanano on August 15, 2018, 03:45:13 PM »
Now, as far as Mack "blowing out his knee", sure, it could happen. To him; or Rodgers; or Daniels, Clark. Adams, Martinez, or any of the other players you listed as being unretainable for the Packers. I don't totally disagree with you. I just think the front office is also very aware of the costs involved, and will make an informed decision based on a cost/benefit analysis. Or maybe they'll flip a coin.  ::)

Uhhhh................ confused(

I think you're referring to someone else with this comment ricky.

I never said anything about Mack blowing out his knee.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Stacked at wr, is it time to trade Allison?
« Last post by Donzo on August 15, 2018, 03:23:59 PM »
Don't discount Allison's ability from the slot. It may be Cobb's best (preferred) position, but Allison may give him a run for the slot starting spot.

Last year he was a wrecking ball (almost exclusively out of the slot) in the win against CINCY.


Interesting.... Wondering, what did Allison do the next 13 games?... Also, in the Cincy game, I think 70 yards came on a broken play. And, by wrecking ball, do you mean slow and stationary?... If yes, then I agree.

All in all, I like Allison. Gotta respect his professionalism... BUT, his FB level speed cripples the offense. Just like Gunter' MLB speed crippled the secondary.

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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: 53 Man Roster Prediction
« Last post by Donzo on August 15, 2018, 03:15:48 PM »
Possibly, I just think that the Packers view Day and Patrick as fairly even and the fact that Day is a better pure center but yet can handle a guard spot if needed gives him a small edge over Patrick. Both will be on an opening day roster, the question yet to be answered is will it be the Packers roster. We will know that answer in a little over 2 weeks from now.

Is Day a better pure center? This is Patrick's 3rd year at center, he was the backup C in 2017 and has as many NFL snaps at center as Day. Patrick is also much stronger, a couple years younger and has over 200 NFL snaps... I like Patrick.

Maybe they keep both?!?

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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Gute interested in Khalil Mack
« Last post by ricky on August 15, 2018, 12:20:54 PM »
And that's why I said........
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"players we could not extend over the next 2-3 years if we traded for Mack."

Cobb and CM3 affect being able to afford Mack in 2018.

Mack affects being able to afford numerous "core" players in 2019-2020 and possibly beyond. Especially when you factor in what Rodgers may end up costing.

We would be talking about losing players like Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Blake Martinez, HHCD, Dean Lowry for 2019 and 2020.

"Beyond"? Bakhtiari, Linsley, Lane Taylor, Kevin King, Montravious Adams, Jamaal Williams, and Aaron Jones all come due in 2021.

Mack and Rodgers, together could be soaking up (north of) 30% of GB's salary cap in future years.

That is something the Packers would absolultely have to consider before they made a trade or inked a contract with Mack. Could the Packers swing this? Are they creative enough to retain the core players they really want? That is the question. You seem very doubtful. I am unsure, but will trust the Packers front office to make the right decision, for the present and the future of the franchise. 

Now, as far as Mack "blowing out his knee", sure, it could happen. To him; or Rodgers; or Daniels, Clark. Adams, Martinez, or any of the other players you listed as being unretainable for the Packers. I don't totally disagree with you. I just think the front office is also very aware of the costs involved, and will make an informed decision based on a cost/benefit analysis. Or maybe they'll flip a coin.  ::)
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Stacked at wr, is it time to trade Allison?
« Last post by craig on August 15, 2018, 09:57:39 AM »
Don't discount Allison's ability from the slot. It may be Cobb's best (preferred) position, but Allison may give him a run for the slot starting spot.

Last year he was a wrecking ball (almost exclusively out of the slot) in the win against CINCY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV1LwJeIrGM

Just something to chew on a little bit.
Helpful point, thanks for mentioning that.  Yeah, if Cobb were to get hurt, moving Allison into slot might bake a lot of sense, and then open up the outside spot for one of the more dangeous deep threats.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: 53 Man Roster Prediction
« Last post by craig on August 15, 2018, 09:53:45 AM »
RT made a good point, though, that I don't really now how to process; somebody on game-day needs to be able to fill in at center if needed, for the duration of the game.  Would that be Pankey?  McCray?  RT's point is well taken that if Day is much better at center, and not all that much worse at guard, plus if other backup tackles like Murphy or Bell can fill in at guard anyway, tie-break might favor the guy-who-can-play-center-better.

I also hadn't realized Day was such an old guy, he's 26 already and a 4th year dude.  So I imagine that means you can't park him on PS again?  And have your backup center waiting there? 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Gute interested in Khalil Mack
« Last post by The GM on August 15, 2018, 07:49:58 AM »
So apparently no team can afford mack because they would have to give up something for him. Cobb is likely done soon anyway as they were debating between him and Nelson and were wanting him to take a pay cut. Moving Cobb and Perry frees up what, 20 mil+? And gets rid of two oft-injured players, one of which may not be back anyways. Matthew's is in the last year of his deal correct? So he is back at the negotiating table and maybe gone anyways after this. Perhaps ask Arod to take a little less to make a huge run at a couple superbowls. The options are plenty, and I see the super conservative nature of debate is still here on the forum.
You gotta be smart with the personnel decisions like this.  20+mill and a couple #1s if thats what it takes is pretty costly. The kid blows out his knee and where is the franchise?  Good luck building around Rodgers in that scenario.  Im not saying its a bad deal to get Mack, Im just saying you have be smart in what you give up.  Mack is a great player but his sacks have gone down every year.  Im on the fence on this one.  It depends in the draft picks you have to give for me.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Gute interested in Khalil Mack
« Last post by Shinesman on August 15, 2018, 12:11:46 AM »
So apparently no team can afford mack because they would have to give up something for him. Cobb is likely done soon anyway as they were debating between him and Nelson and were wanting him to take a pay cut. Moving Cobb and Perry frees up what, 20 mil+? And gets rid of two oft-injured players, one of which may not be back anyways. Matthew's is in the last year of his deal correct? So he is back at the negotiating table and maybe gone anyways after this. Perhaps ask Arod to take a little less to make a huge run at a couple superbowls. The options are plenty, and I see the super conservative nature of debate is still here on the forum.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Stacked at wr, is it time to trade Allison?
« Last post by Shinesman on August 15, 2018, 12:06:25 AM »

There is still some time and a lot can change in the coming weeks.  Moore could be the star this week?   An injury could change things too.  It's important for these guys to take maximum advantage of every single opportunity they are given.
thumbsup) thumbsup) thumbsup)  :)

We are using data we have vs what we hope might happen. The training camp updates indicated moore had a drop problem. And on day they mentioned the same thing. It's still there. So if we are talking at this moment, moore is the poorest performer to this point.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Gute interested in Khalil Mack
« Last post by dannobanano on August 14, 2018, 05:58:44 PM »
And that's why I said........
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"players we could not extend over the next 2-3 years if we traded for Mack."

Cobb and CM3 affect being able to afford Mack in 2018.

Mack affects being able to afford numerous "core" players in 2019-2020 and possibly beyond. Especially when you factor in what Rodgers may end up costing.

We would be talking about losing players like Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Blake Martinez, HHCD, Dean Lowry for 2019 and 2020.

"Beyond"? Bakhtiari, Linsley, Lane Taylor, Kevin King, Montravious Adams, Jamaal Williams, and Aaron Jones all come due in 2021.

Mack and Rodgers, together could be soaking up (north of) 30% of GB's salary cap in future years.
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