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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
« Last post by ricky on Today at 09:41:11 PM »
Nobody named as ST's coach. Apparently Zook is a hard man to replace.  :o
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Thompson's big mistake
« Last post by ricky on Today at 08:19:54 PM »
It could be argued that TT's big mistake was hiring MM rather than Sean Payton. But then again, hindsight is always 20/20; and, of course, hindsight changes with the political/social whims of the times. If Cobb had been allowed to walk, and done well with another team (ala Hayward), we'd still be pointing that out as a big mistake. Its all relative.

I know that MM was said to be the pick at HC because of his history in GB.  I also know that SP reportedly preferred NO. That being said, we know how both teams, and candidates, work the press as one, or the other, loses interest in the job/hire. I doubt that we will ever know if SP was actually preferred by GB or if he preferred NO.

One thing we do know, SP evolved his offense over time. His use of Hill proves this.  Separately, It appears that TT greatly emasculated MM by ruling GB with an iron fist.  Players noticed this. MM had difficulty holding the team accountable because he could not hold tough practices, play key players in pre-season, call players out etc.  He lost his authority.

TT "ruled GB with an iron fist"? OK. So, if you have some sources who could back this up, please share them. If this is a personal opinion, fine. That's another matter. It seemed that MM and AR had some conflicts from time to time, and that it finally came to a head this year. And the stubborness and extreme loyalty (are the traits interdependent?) were also obvious problems. So, it wouldn't have matter who the HC was? That Payton would have been handcuffed by TT's "iron fist"? I respectfully disagree. Other said years ago that MM should go. I disagreed. I was wrong. Hopefully, I'll be more adaptable and open to new ideas, rather than stubborn and too loyal.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
« Last post by Fox_NFLs_GG on Today at 07:38:49 PM »
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.

It seems like MLF is going with younger and motivated coaches. Hopefully the Packers will not be a bunch of Coaches in over their heads.

Campen was the offensive coach that I did not want GB to lose. 

Yeah, the trend certainly is to go younger.  We will see how long that last’s league wide.  I think that it is part of the ebb and flow of the league.  That being said, staffs are so much larger today and I think that takes a bit of weight off some of the titles that have always been there. 

Furthermore, I think that there may be something to having some coaches that are young, hungry, and may be able to better relate to young players.  This new CBA has changed the league in so many ways and, maybe, younger coaches that have only known this CBA have an advantage over those that are “old school”.

I was hoping for the guy from Colts who would have been an upgrade over Campen.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
« Last post by dannobanano on Today at 07:30:29 PM »
On offense they've kept TE coach Angelichio, RB coach Sirmans (likely), and they're negotiating to bring back WR coach Getsey.

This is Hackett's 3rd NFL OC gig.

From my point of view, it's only the HC (MLF) and the OL coach (Stenovich) that are the newbie's here. They tabbed Stenovich because MLF wants to use the same type of running/blocking scheme that Shanahan uses in SF. Simple!

Defense has DC Pettine and DL Montogomery (both,who they value) as holdovers. Some of the "D" staff is YTBD, as is the ST's coach.

I don't have a great sense of apprehension about being "too young" as a coaching staff.

Let's let it play out before we start with the hand wringing.

edit: Just hear that Jason Simmons, who coached Packers secondary last year, may be retained as well. And I believe Olivadatti is coming to coach the LB's.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
« Last post by #66 on Today at 06:03:47 PM »
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.

It seems like MLF is going with younger and motivated coaches. Hopefully the Packers will not be a bunch of Coaches in over their heads.

Campen was the offensive coach that I did not want GB to lose. 

Yeah, the trend certainly is to go younger.  We will see how long that last’s league wide.  I think that it is part of the ebb and flow of the league.  That being said, staffs are so much larger today and I think that takes a bit of weight off some of the titles that have always been there. 

Furthermore, I think that there may be something to having some coaches that are young, hungry, and may be able to better relate to young players.  This new CBA has changed the league in so many ways and, maybe, younger coaches that have only known this CBA have an advantage over those that are “old school”.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Thompson's big mistake
« Last post by #66 on Today at 05:51:30 PM »
It could be argued that TT's big mistake was hiring MM rather than Sean Payton. But then again, hindsight is always 20/20; and, of course, hindsight changes with the political/social whims of the times. If Cobb had been allowed to walk, and done well with another team (ala Hayward), we'd still be pointing that out as a big mistake. Its all relative.

I know that MM was said to be the pick at HC because of his history in GB.  I also know that SP reportedly preferred NO. That being said, we know how both teams, and candidates, work the press as one, or the other, loses interest in the job/hire. I doubt that we will ever know if SP was actually preferred by GB or if he preferred NO.

One thing we do know, SP evolved his offense over time. His use of Hill proves this.  Separately, It appears that TT greatly emasculated MM by ruling GB with an iron fist.  Players noticed this. MM had difficulty holding the team accountable because he could not hold tough practices, play key players in pre-season, call players out etc.  He lost his authority.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Thompson's big mistake
« Last post by ricky on Today at 04:14:59 PM »
It could be argued that TT's big mistake was hiring MM rather than Sean Payton. But then again, hindsight is always 20/20; and, of course, hindsight changes with the political/social whims of the times. If Cobb had been allowed to walk, and done well with another team (ala Hayward), we'd still be pointing that out as a big mistake. Its all relative.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
« Last post by Fox_NFLs_GG on Today at 04:11:11 PM »
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.

It seems like MLF is going with younger and motivated coaches. Hopefully the Packers will not be a bunch of Coaches in over their heads.
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Draft Talk / Re: running backs
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on Today at 03:47:12 PM »
I've posted about FS Nasir Adderley before (could be availabble as a very early round 3 pick). In addition to being a quality FS, he is a very accomplished return guy.

Stanford's RB Bryce Love has been disappointing and has slipped from at least a high 2nd round pick, down to a current Drafttek ranking of #119
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