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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by craig on Today at 12:05:34 PM »
All five of those guys are still PS-eligible, Patrick included.  I'd think the new undrafted rookies are probably more competing for a 63-man spot than a 53-man spot, unless one of them looks just shockingly good. 

I'm not in camp, but I'm guessing Patrick has the edge.  He's already shown he's pretty functional at guard, and I assume he's had two years to practice some center-snaps.  *IF* he can play center well enough to fill in for a couple of quarters, I like his odds over the other guys.  But, who knows. 

Q:  MM usually only game-days 2 backup OL, right?  If the interior backup is responsible for covering three different positions, he might not necessarily be the best backup at all three. 

For example, maybe Patrick is the best backup at both guard spots, but Day or Davis or Amichia is actually a better backup at center.  In that case, Patrick may still be the Game-Day active, and need to fill in at center for a few quarters of Linsley gets injured.  But, by the next Sunday, the best backup center, who was previously stored on PS or inactive, can get promoted to GameDay and can start.  So, you don't even necessarily need to have backup center even on the 53, much less on the Game Day. 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by RT on Today at 05:48:13 AM »
No mention of Amichia, wonder if hurt or not impressive...

Last year after the draft I watched a piece by Lance Zierlein breaking down Amichia and the one thing that stuck with me was that he said that Amichia spent a lot of time on the ground for an OLineman. Dispite his off the charts athleticism, he may just not be a good football player. I don't blame the Packers for taking a chance on a top athlete at the end of the 6th round, sometimes a team hits and sometimes they miss. Their is still hope that he is putting it all together after a full offseason program, but he is at the show me something stage this training camp. IMO

 

Amichia was supposed to become the primary backup at Center, and a swing Guard, but his shortcomings could be why GB signed Austin Davis (udfa), who is a Center (first) and may be able to grow into a backup Guard spot.

I still haven't ruled out Cole Madison as a candidate for the RT spot. He has proven himself on the big stage, and as one of the better RT's in D-1 football. Plus, he has the "heart" to go get it. He was a vocal tough guy enforcer for WSU. I'm just not ready to rule him out at RT.

The interior OL spots should be a competitive battle. In the end Lucas Patrick, Kofi Amichia, Dillon Day, Jacob Alsadek and Austin Davis may well all be battling for one spot on the 53. Patrick is the early favorite, but it would not surprise to see anyone of them endup the victor. Dillon Day may well be a sleeper here, The Packers grabbed him off Denver's PS late in the year to bring him to training camp this year. They liked something they saw in him.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by ThatGuy284 on May 23, 2018, 02:11:57 PM »
That seems a prudent decision danno....seeing as it's May 23rd, the third day of the first OTA and they are all wearing gym shorts.   The only one I've safely ruled out at any position is Mokofisi.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by dannobanano on May 23, 2018, 01:21:03 PM »
No mention of Amichia, wonder if hurt or not impressive...

Last year after the draft I watched a piece by Lance Zierlein breaking down Amichia and the one thing that stuck with me was that he said that Amichia spent a lot of time on the ground for an OLineman. Dispite his off the charts athleticism, he may just not be a good football player. I don't blame the Packers for taking a chance on a top athlete at the end of the 6th round, sometimes a team hits and sometimes they miss. Their is still hope that he is putting it all together after a full offseason program, but he is at the show me something stage this training camp. IMO

 

Amichia was supposed to become the primary backup at Center, and a swing Guard, but his shortcomings could be why GB signed Austin Davis (udfa), who is a Center (first) and may be able to grow into a backup Guard spot.

I still haven't ruled out Cole Madison as a candidate for the RT spot. He has proven himself on the big stage, and as one of the better RT's in D-1 football. Plus, he has the "heart" to go get it. He was a vocal tough guy enforcer for WSU. I'm just not ready to rule him out at RT.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by craig on May 23, 2018, 08:26:08 AM »
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#Packers OL coach James Campen says Justin McCray "lived here" over the offseason, constantly working out. Campen sees a lot of potential. "I think you just saw the tip of what Justin will be."....

I think combine stuff emphasizes quickness and speed so much.  But for o-line, pure strength is so huge.  Lane Taylor is really strong, and that has helped him super much.  Spriggs had the wonderful 3-cones and vertical jumps and stuff, but thus far has been so acutely lacking in power.  And the short, choppy active feet that o-line guys are actually using, the small subtle foot-chops to maintain leverage angles, I'm not sure that's super-well represented by 3-cones.  (Maybe it is, but I'm not sure....) 

I'm hoping that might apply to Madison.  HIs combine measurables were pretty mediocre.  But even if his 3-cone wasn't good, I'm still hopeful that his footwork and balance are so good that he'll be a winner.  And that after a couple of off-seasons, that he'll be suitably powerful besides. 

McCray is really strong, I think, and what sounds like a really committed "living here" offseason might suggest he'll be even more strong and powerful this season.  He and Taylor will almost certainly be the strongest, most powerful guys on the line.  Linsley is kind of too short to be dominant physically, but he's really strong too, and well able to leverage.  He's not going to just drive-block Raji-sized guys 3 yards off the line, but he's pretty powerful nonetheless.  It's kind of interesting to consider the possibility of having an interior line that might be very physical and able to move people in the run game.  Might perhaps have a better short-yardage drive-blocking group inside than we've had? 

I do have a little hesitation, though.  Coaches love high-effort, committed guys who live in the offseason weight-room.  But that effort and commitment and weight-room strength doesn't always overcome athletic limits.  Sometimes guys who aren't as committed and don't listen to coaching quite as well still end up being superior players; just because superior raw talent can often beat higher-effort coach-favorites.   Hope McCray has the talent and balance and quickness so that his weight-room effort really makes him good. 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by Twain on May 23, 2018, 08:05:30 AM »
It feels like this is the first year in a long time that there is good depth and competition in the cornerback group.

No one has proven themselves as a top talent, but we will enter camp with fierce competition to earn a spot, and that should result in better performance from the group.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by Hands on May 23, 2018, 07:06:04 AM »
Goodson would be a very good surprise.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by RT on May 23, 2018, 06:44:17 AM »
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Stash this away for camp: Aaron Rodgers brought up CB Demetri Goodson unprompted on Tuesday. "He's made some plays already during the two days (of OTAs)."

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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by RT on May 23, 2018, 06:34:32 AM »
No mention of Amichia, wonder if hurt or not impressive...

Last year after the draft I watched a piece by Lance Zierlein breaking down Amichia and the one thing that stuck with me was that he said that Amichia spent a lot of time on the ground for an OLineman. Dispite his off the charts athleticism, he may just not be a good football player. I don't blame the Packers for taking a chance on a top athlete at the end of the 6th round, sometimes a team hits and sometimes they miss. Their is still hope that he is putting it all together after a full offseason program, but he is at the show me something stage this training camp. IMO

 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: OTA notes
« Last post by Hands on May 23, 2018, 06:08:47 AM »
No mention of Amichia, wonder if hurt or not impressive...
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