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Draft Talk / Initial/Short Analysis of the 2019 Draft for Green Bay
« Last post by claymaker on Today at 09:10:12 AM »
Draft Capitol

---> Green Bay holds 10 draft picks and are not projected to receive any compensatory picks in 2019. They have multiple picks in rounds 1, 4 and 6.

---> The rough estimation of their total numerical draft value is 2704. Over half of this total value [1790] is comprised of their first round picks.

---> They have picks in every round and IMO have the greatest diversity of picks which will allow them to target and draft players however they wish.

Draft Analysis

---> Their first pick will be more valuable to them than other teams. Due to the amount of defensive talent and QBs in this draft class they will definitely be looking at a blue chip player at #12.

---> Their second 1st round pick will be very valuable in any trade scenario.

---> Their draft position will be ideal for teams looking to trade up, and attractive to teams in the top 10 after the 1st round.


Summary

Draft position is key this year. They are out of the top 10 but still top 15, which doesn't make it too expensive to trade up and teams looking to trade up will still have to offer considerable value [best of both worlds.]

With specific needs in mind Green Bay has all the ammunition to solidify them and still create depth with other picks.

Their draft equity is among the highest in the NFL; From my initial analysis their draft equity is similar to teams in the top 5 and even greater than Tampa Bay [2614.]


https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=gb

The highest and most reasonable trade up in the 1st round I can see is @3 with the New York Jets: By trading both 1st round picks, 2nd round, and both 4th round picks, which is a ~200 net loss in draft value for Green Bay. This would be an attractive offer to a team with, respectively, low draft capitol. It's hard to definitively state the details, realistically more value might be needed, but a 200 net gain with 2 first round picks and 4 total is an attractive offer. Not going to elaborate on anymore trades, but this is likely the grandest trade they could make.





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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: O line
« Last post by #66 on Today at 08:49:22 AM »
I had read that about Cole and the suicide somewhere too. The two players were very close and the thought is that Madison somehow provided either the gun or the training.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
« Last post by #66 on Today at 08:47:22 AM »
Apparently they are trying to bring Getsy back. People may remember him for his various drills with WRs that, I believe, included bricks and tennis balls.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: O line
« Last post by craig on Today at 05:43:14 AM »
Good thought, 1265.
I like your point that it's a very good unit with some concerns.  That a good guard would impact.
 
I'd kinda like to maybe see a double-dip:  both sign a good FA guard, AND spend a variably high draft pick on an OL.

A reason I'd like to double-dip is that if you add one guy to eliminate your last concern, then the minute one of the 5 guys gets hurt you're back to having a vulnerable spot.  Plus of course you're trusting that the guy you pick is going to be good day one, unlike high picks past such as Spriggs and Sherrod.  It would be so nice to have a prospect with a chance to perhaps be really good waiting in line, kind of like Bulaga as a rookie.   

I realize the roster is thin all over, so aspiring to have any depth at OL might be unrealistically obsessive!
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Draft Talk / Re: Options
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on Today at 02:50:10 AM »
First off, lets look at the Packers most glaring needs:

A starting free safety
shoring up the offensive line
outside pass rush
inside pass rush
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Now lets take a look at the draft:

Safety
Deionte Thompson
Lukas Denis
Johnathan Abram

I would pass up L.Denis and J.Abram (and Jaquan Johnson, if you rate him) for other guys that are more FS than SS. They would include Nasir Adderley, Juan Thornhill and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson. They all seem to fit in the late 2nd early third round area, though Thornhill's draft position has wide variance.

Hybrid DE / OLB
Clelin Ferrell
Rashan Gary
Zach Allen
Jaylon Ferguson
Chase Winovich

I'd add Charles Omenihu (Texas) to this group. Looks like a third round pick. https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/11/29/2019-nfl-draft-prospects-collegefootball-texas-charles-omenihu-scouting-report-interview/2/

Offensive Tackles

Jonah Williams
Greg Little
Jawaan Taylor
Dalton Risner
David Edwards
Andre Dillard
Yodny Cajuste
Kaleb McGary

Offensive Guards

Cody Ford
Michael Deiter
Chris Lindstrom

Risner, Cajuste and Ford all should be adept at playing both RG and RT, which would make them very attractive to the Packers who want RG help now and a starting RT after the end of the 2019 season when Bulaga's contract expires.

Answering the question as to where the value lies, it's all guesswork until the draft has happened, but you can make some assumptions on the grouping of talent. Round one (#12) could see an edge rusher like Polite, M.Sweat or, if lucky, Ferrell. The later round one pick looks good value for taking a versatile OT/OG like Cajuste or Ford. At free safety, later in round 2, to early in round three looks to be the sweet spot, with a choice of at least three.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: O line
« Last post by OneTwoSixFive on Today at 02:21:27 AM »
I am agreeing with RT about the quality of the o line as a unit. It is a very good unit, but with some concerns.
The excellent: David Bakhtiari
The very good: Corey Linsley
The good: Bryan Bulaga
The good enough: Lane Taylor
The bad: Byron Bell

What the O line needs. One starting RG, and one replacement for Bulaga after 2019. These can be fixed (for 2019) with just one pick. A guy like Cody Ford (draft, round 2) could fill in at RG and move to RT in 2020. Then the Packers would still need a RG in 2020, but the need is pushed a year into the future. Dalton Risner is another in this draft who could do the RG/RT thing. A lesser (and cheaper) version of Ford would be G Connor McGovern, but he doesn't have eventual RT capability.
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Draft Talk / Re: Options
« Last post by Shinesman on January 17, 2019, 09:47:20 PM »
A great scenario would be Clowney, if he hit the open market(doubt it). Or Suggs for a year or two, but he has the same love surrounding him in Baltimore as Ray Lewis did. One of them would be great, then if White fell to us at 12, and with the second pick we score Fant, or the TE from Bama, or Ximines (sp). That's a good start to the offseason.
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Draft Talk / Re: 1st round favorites
« Last post by Shinesman on January 17, 2019, 09:38:28 PM »
Honestly at #12 I like Devin White.

Couldn't agree more
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Mock Drafts / Fanspeak Top Player Available Draft
« Last post by rock county on January 17, 2019, 08:18:05 PM »
Okay, really bored so I let Fanspeak pick the draft.  Gotta say, I'd be pretty okay with this draft.  It was tempting to drift a little bit and pick players that I liked more, but very happy with the first two picks




12: R1P12    LB DEVIN WHITE  LSU

32: R1P32    EDGE MONTEZ SWEAT  MISSISSIPPI STATE

44: R2P12    C ELGTON JENKINS  MISSISSIPPI STATE

75: R3P11    EDGE CHASE WINOVICH  MICHIGAN

114: R4P12  RB DARRELL HENDERSON MEMPHIS

118: R4P16   WR JAKOBI MEYERS  NC STATE

151: R5P12     LB TE'VON CONEY  NOTRE DAME

187: R6P12  TE JOSH OLIVER  SAN JOSE STATE

195: R6P20  RB RYQUELL ARMSTEAD  TEMPLE

228: R7P12  WR DREDRICK SNELSON  UCF
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: O line
« Last post by ricky on January 17, 2019, 05:50:03 PM »
Found this when googling Cole Madison. Add salt as needed, but this this the first time I've heard what his off field issues were:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/9noaki/any_update_on_cole_madison_recently/
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