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NFL Talk / Re: Vikings paying for Cousins deal
« Last post by RT on May 23, 2019, 03:06:59 PM »
Let me ask  you this. Does Rodgers Contract hurt the Packers?  If not, why not?   Sure Rodgers gave them a Super Bowl, 9 years ago when their defense was #2 in the league in scoring.  But what about the last 4 years?  Rodgers is 30-24-1.  Cousins is 32-30-1.   This is a what have you done for me lately league.  Let's look at the top 5 QB's in cap hit in 2019.  1. Jimmy Garrapolo.  2. Matthew Stafford.  3. Derek Carr. 4. Joe Flacco.  5. Andrew Luck.  Tell me, did their contracts hurt their teams?   Now lets move on to 2019.  1. Matthew Stafford.  2.Kirk Cousins.  3. Andrew Luck. 4. Tom Brady. 5. Aaron Rodgers.  Again, are other QB contracts hurting their teams? Why is it that only Cousins contract is getting mentioned about putting a team in "cap hell"?   Let's move to 2020. 1. Matt Ryan.  2. Ben Roethlisberger.   3. Aaron Rodgers.  4. Matthew Stafford.  5. Russel Wilson.  Again, only Cousins contract is an issue.  Down at #6.   So, in the 3 years of Kirk's outlandish contract, he makes the top 5, top paid QB's one year.  But only his contract is hurting the team.   Why is only his contract an issue? Read more: http://purplepainforums.com/thread/1922/why-cousins-contract-hurts-team#ixzz5omfzJxIm


They all hurt their teams and their chances to retain their own talent and sign outside talent to build a team with depth to survive a season that will without a doubt have many injuries. That is the conundrum every team faces, pay the QB and live with unproven depth or live in the hell of not having a proven QB. The only plan that teams seem to think is a winning one right now is to load up on non-QB talent and try to win with a QB on a rookie contract. The question is, would Minnesota been farther ahead to push all-in on a rookie QB and his contract and kept all the veteran non-QB talent in place around him? Paying the QB does not seem to be a strategy that produces as well as most people seem to think it does.     
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NFL Talk / Re: Vikings paying for Cousins deal
« Last post by raptorman on May 23, 2019, 02:06:44 PM »
Let me ask  you this. Does Rodgers Contract hurt the Packers?  If not, why not?   Sure Rodgers gave them a Super Bowl, 9 years ago when their defense was #2 in the league in scoring.  But what about the last 4 years?  Rodgers is 30-24-1.  Cousins is 32-30-1.   This is a what have you done for me lately league.  Let's look at the top 5 QB's in cap hit in 2019.  1. Jimmy Garrapolo.  2. Matthew Stafford.  3. Derek Carr. 4. Joe Flacco.  5. Andrew Luck.  Tell me, did their contracts hurt their teams?   Now lets move on to 2019.  1. Matthew Stafford.  2.Kirk Cousins.  3. Andrew Luck. 4. Tom Brady. 5. Aaron Rodgers.  Again, are other QB contracts hurting their teams? Why is it that only Cousins contract is getting mentioned about putting a team in "cap hell"?   Let's move to 2020. 1. Matt Ryan.  2. Ben Roethlisberger.   3. Aaron Rodgers.  4. Matthew Stafford.  5. Russel Wilson.  Again, only Cousins contract is an issue.  Down at #6.   So, in the 3 years of Kirk's outlandish contract, he makes the top 5, top paid QB's one year.  But only his contract is hurting the team.   Why is only his contract an issue? Read more: http://purplepainforums.com/thread/1922/why-cousins-contract-hurts-team#ixzz5omfzJxIm
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The answer to all this is the football field.  I prefer his performance be at the stadium, rather than the podium. As with all players. We'll see what happens.

WE All want to see it manifest on game day, but since it is the off-season and this is a football forum it seems likely there will be discussion threads like this.

Agree!!!
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The answer to all this is the football field.  I prefer his performance be at the stadium, rather than the podium. As with all players. We'll see what happens.

WE All want to see it manifest on game day, but since it is the off-season and this is a football forum it seems likely there will be discussion threads like this.
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What is wrong with Mike Smith? Doesn't he know that all the draft pundits criticized the pick and said the Packers made a big mistake? I mean what the heck does Mike Smith know? Who in the hell is Mike Smith?

I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself. Gary has the talent to be like Mack and maybe better. Why wouldn't you want to draft him? Big, talented players don't happen every year. He's one and I will be shocked if he doesn't make it.

Everyone knows the Packers are all idiots. The Packers should of traded their whole draft for Mack and paid him 26M a year so they could have been in cap hell for the next several years and had no draft capital. Yes, all idiots without a doubt.

Barney: "Hey Homer, you're late for English!"
Homer: "Pfft English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England. Come on, let's go smoke."
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The answer to all this is the football field.  I prefer his performance be at the stadium, rather than the podium. As with all players. We'll see what happens.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Which 2nd and/or 3rd year...
« Last post by Hands on May 23, 2019, 07:05:31 AM »
RT, I knew you probably had it. Just too early to get my brain thinking this morning.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Which 2nd and/or 3rd year...
« Last post by RT on May 23, 2019, 07:03:29 AM »
Sorry that I can't remember who wrote it but they rated Green Bay as having the best d-line in the league. When I first read it I was struck by the fact it wasn't done by a Packer fan, at least I didn't recognize them as one, and the reasons were exactly what this subject is touching on....Clark, Daniels, and either Lowry or Adams (also talked about his improvement) as the starters with Lancaster coming in to stop the run.

Adding Keke and those big OLBs...it will be hard to move those guys around for running yards. One player who's made some news for the Packers, not in a good way, Josh Jones is a player I see making that jump in performance. He'll want out and to do it he will have to show the league he can play. This may be the biggest incentive he has ever had in his life. If he's a baller, then he is going to be lights out this season. IF not...he'll whine himself to the unemployment line.

The article was on Bleacher Report and I posted a link to it on the 2019-20 Defense thread, reply #16.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Which 2nd and/or 3rd year...
« Last post by craig on May 23, 2019, 06:56:11 AM »
...Clark, Daniels, and either Lowry or Adams (also talked about his improvement) as the starters with Lancaster coming in to stop the run.  Adding Keke and those big OLBs...it will be hard to move those guys around for running yards. .....

Agree.  This has a chance to be a really elite run-defense.  And the more 3rd downs a defense forces, the more chances you have to get a stop. 
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What is wrong with Mike Smith? Doesn't he know that all the draft pundits criticized the pick and said the Packers made a big mistake? I mean what the heck does Mike Smith know? Who in the hell is Mike Smith?

I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself. Gary has the talent to be like Mack and maybe better. Why wouldn't you want to draft him? Big, talented players don't happen every year. He's one and I will be shocked if he doesn't make it. 
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