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Title: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: Cocoman2 on March 12, 2014, 10:58:38 AM
Just saw this on Rotoworld. While I would rather have his Wisconsin & Texas temate, Graham, I do like Daniels and we could use him.
Title: Owen Daniels visiting Green Bay
Post by: Beagle on March 12, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
He was alright with Houston. Nothing to write home about.

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Green Bay - Former Houston Texans and University of Wisconsin tight end Owen Daniels is visiting with the Green Bay Packers, an NFL source said.

Daniels, 31, was released a week ago after the Texans decided they did not want to rework his contract. He immediately became a free agent and a number of teams have contacted him.

Daniels, a fourth-round pick in 2006, ranks second in Texans franchise history with 385 catches and 4,617 receiving yards. He had one year left on a three-year deal worth about $15 million and have counted about $6.25 million against the salary cap this year.

The Texans saved $4.5 million by releasing him.

Last season, Daniels only played in five games, suffering a broken fibula in October and subsequently being put on injured reserve / designated for return. However, he did not make it back for another game. [/u]He finished the season with 24 catches for 252 yards and three touchdowns.

The 6-3, 249-pound Daniels had missed only two games in the two years prior and caught 62 passes for 716 yards (11.5 average) and 6 touchdowns in 2012 and 54 catches for 677 yards (12.5 average) and three touchdowns in '11.

In 2009, Daniels suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in Week 9 and was lost for the season. He played in 11 games the following year and caught 38 passes for 471 yards and two touchdowns.

The Packers have not said publicly whether they are willing to clear tight end Jermichael Finley from neck fusioon surgery and Andrew Quarless is an unrestricted free agent. At his best, Daniels has been a very good down-the-field receiver.

Of his 385 receptions, 56 have been for 20 or more yards and 29 have been for touchdowns.

How much the Packers are willing to pay to have the Naperville, Ill., native return to the state may depend on what happens with Quarless. If Quarless leaves, there will be more pressure on them to fill the position.
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Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: be_here_now on March 12, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
this would be a nice signing.  he's a proven and productive player, and we could be getting a nice "buy low" value with him coming off injury.  he has shaken off some injuries before and always produced.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: SSG on March 12, 2014, 11:06:58 AM
Just saw this on Rotoworld. While I would rather have his Wisconsin & Texas temate, Graham, I do like Daniels and we could use him.

I'd much rather have Graham.  Daniels is on the latter part of his career and hasn't played a full season in in 6 years.  I'd like this if they signed him and made an early investment into the position in the draft. 
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: bigbubbatd on March 12, 2014, 11:10:17 AM
He isnt flashy but he produces.  Before his injury last year 24 catches and 3 tds in 5 games.  The two years before that he had 62 and 54 catches.  They are remarkably similar numbers to Finley who had 25 catches last year 61 and 55 the two years before.  So over the past three season Finley has played 3 more games and has 1 more catch
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: bigbubbatd on March 12, 2014, 11:11:34 AM
Just saw this on Rotoworld. While I would rather have his Wisconsin & Texas temate, Graham, I do like Daniels and we could use him.

I'd much rather have Graham.  Daniels is on the latter part of his career and hasn't played a full season in in 6 years.  I'd like this if they signed him and made an early investment into the position in the draft.

Daniels played 15 games in both 2011 and 2012 so you are right that he hasnt played full seasons but he missed very minimal time the two seasons before this last one. 
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: philepps85 on March 12, 2014, 12:03:16 PM
Given the conservative medical staff, my guess is they flunk him based on the leg. Too bad, because I think Daniels would be a nice upgrade on Quarless as a receiving TE — although I agree with the others that Graham is a better option.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: LMG on March 12, 2014, 02:48:17 PM

Conservative medical staff? Oh please....

Quarless IS BETTER than Daniels at this juncture.


Daniels on his last legs, and he broke one last year, and in his twilight.


Pass..............
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: SSG on March 12, 2014, 05:03:17 PM

Conservative medical staff? Oh please....

Quarless IS BETTER than Daniels at this juncture.


Daniels on his last legs, and he broke one last year, and in his twilight.


Pass..............

Based on what?  Surely not anything that has to do with receiving the football.  Quarless played in 11 more games and he only had 7 more catches and 60 more yards with fewer TDs.  Daniel's averages last year were very close to Quarless' best games (5 catches/ 50 yards).  I don't think there is even a comparison between the two.  The only thing Quarless has going is his age. 

Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: Beagle on March 12, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
Based on what?  Surely not anything that has to do with receiving the football.  Quarless played in 11 more games and he only had 7 more catches and 60 more yards with fewer TDs.  Daniel's averages last year were very close to Quarless' best games (5 catches/ 50 yards).  I don't think there is even a comparison between the two.  The only thing Quarless has going is his age.

and his health. Which is huge considering all the issues we have keeping guys on the field.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: philepps85 on March 12, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
Gonzo played into his late 30s. I don't see why 31 would be considered the end of the line for a TE. I can't speak to the injuries, but based strictly on age he's the same age as Witten and one year older than Vernon Davis.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: Lodestar on March 12, 2014, 11:23:47 PM
Gonzo played into his late 30s. I don't see why 31 would be considered the end of the line for a TE. I can't speak to the injuries, but based strictly on age he's the same age as Witten and one year older than Vernon Davis.

That's my feeling too. As long as the cost isn't too high, I can't see why anyone would be opposed to bringing in a guy like Daniels. He broke his leg last year and is on the down side of 30, but otherwise he's an experienced vet whose performance has remained pretty consistent over the past few years. I think he could be a really solid addition for us.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: jthiel86 on March 13, 2014, 04:11:12 AM
The thing about the Gonzo thing is that he is a physical freak.  One of the most athletic big guys in the NFL. Daniels gets nicked up a lot, however so does Finley and Quarless isn't a shining beacon of health either.  I don't mind Daniels, but Graham and Quarless seems better.

Also, who knows what we may have with Bostic with Rodgers slinging the ball?
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: cpk1994 on March 13, 2014, 06:14:13 AM
Gonzo played into his late 30s. I don't see why 31 would be considered the end of the line for a TE. I can't speak to the injuries, but based strictly on age he's the same age as Witten and one year older than Vernon Davis.

That's my feeling too. As long as the cost isn't too high, I can't see why anyone would be opposed to bringing in a guy like Daniels. He broke his leg last year and is on the down side of 30, but otherwise he's an experienced vet whose performance has remained pretty consistent over the past few years. I think he could be a really solid addition for us.

This.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: JASIII on March 13, 2014, 06:43:47 AM
Charles Woodson was coming off of a broken leg too.  I'm not implying Daniels is the same caliber athlete with the same impact, but a broken leg is not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Owen Daniles visiting Green Bay
Post by: SSG on March 13, 2014, 11:29:52 AM
Based on what?  Surely not anything that has to do with receiving the football.  Quarless played in 11 more games and he only had 7 more catches and 60 more yards with fewer TDs.  Daniel's averages last year were very close to Quarless' best games (5 catches/ 50 yards).  I don't think there is even a comparison between the two.  The only thing Quarless has going is his age.

and his health. Which is huge considering all the issues we have keeping guys on the field.

A pipe dream.  The team just brought back Quarless.  I guesss mediocrity is acceptable to Thompson as long as you are drafted by Thompson.