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Title: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 10, 2019, 12:34:39 PM
Thought a dedicated threat to hirings, firings, or rumors relating to assistant coaches might be nice?   

https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky

Out:
Zook (Demovsky)
Raih (young WR coach)  (per Demovsky)

Rumor:
Brayden Coombs rumored to be coming to Packers, young guy, assistant ST guy at Bengals

Note:  Demovsky says Raih was given permission to talk elsewhere, and a rumor that he wouldn't be back.  But didn't say he was actually out for sure or fired or anything. 

Silverstein says that Pettine will be back; but I'm not sure that was an "official" fact, or just his assumption based on what he's heard. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: footballdad on January 11, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/10/ron-zook-out-as-packers-remake-staff/

Finally...........................
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 11, 2019, 06:24:15 AM
Philbin has interviewed for the O line position with the Vikings.

Minnesota is interested in talking with Campen as are other teams.  He is under contract and the Packers don't have to let him interview with anyone if they don't want to.  Given that he is well regarded in the league and he can bring some continunity to the team I would think MLF would be inclined to keep him on.

I saw somewhere that the tight ends coach was going to be retained but I am not going to look back to see if I can find a link.  He is a coach that is respected in the Packer organization.

Someone speculated that the Packers could bring in Caldwell as the QB coach.  He obviously has the experience and has worked with Peyton Manning so he has come cred.

There may not have been an official announcement but Pettitine will be back.  He wants to come back, the Packer brass really want him back and MLF had him on his list of DC's he'd like to hire.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/10/packers-matt-lafleur-looking-former-jaguars-oc-nathaniel-hackett/2540444002/

It's fun to throw out names but even the beat writers don't know if an assistant is capable unless it is very clear they are good or bad ( see Ron Zook)

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 11, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/11/matt-lafleur-packers-should-consider-john-defilippo-for-offensive-coordinator/

Interesting idea- his name was being bandied about at HC candidate earlier during the season and Zimmer has a reputation as being hired as offensive coordinator

In other news Hacket, the former Jax coach is in Green Bay today to talk about the HC job according to Rappaport

And Demonsky poured water on the idea that Coombs will be special teams coach
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: packlaw on January 11, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
Multiple reports indicate Mike Pettine retained as DC
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 11, 2019, 02:19:24 PM
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/11/matt-lafleur-packers-should-consider-john-defilippo-for-offensive-coordinator/

Interesting idea- his name was being bandied about at HC candidate earlier during the season and Zimmer has a reputation as being hired as offensive coordinator

In other news Hacket, the former Jax coach is in Green Bay today to talk about the HC job according to Rappaport

And Demonsky poured water on the idea that Coombs will be special teams coach

What I find weird about that is HOW does a guy go from assistant ST's coach to an OC?

Something fishy I think.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 11, 2019, 02:32:36 PM
Coombs was not under consideration for O C job.

But Monken, is under consideration for OC according to a report.  You may recall that he was with Tampa and was interviewed for the head job.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 11, 2019, 02:41:45 PM
Coombs was not under consideration for O C job.

But Monken, is under consideration for OC according to a report.  You may recall that he was with Tampa and was interviewed for the head job.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/11/report-todd-monken-up-for-offensive-coordinator-in-detroit-green-bay/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: The GM on January 11, 2019, 04:18:49 PM
Gary Kubiak isn't going to be the offensive coordinator in Denver.   He wanted to bring some coaches to the staff and Fangio said "No".  Kubiak may remain in Denver in the personnel section.  LaFluer worked for Kubiak in Houston.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Shinesman on January 11, 2019, 04:32:08 PM
Silverstein tweeted that Joe Whitt is gone(termination). 2 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 11, 2019, 04:40:49 PM
Wow, interesting! Hadn't expected that. 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 11, 2019, 04:46:31 PM
I'm going to say I'm glad about that, actually, although of course what do I know? 

But I've wondered why he's tended to have such a good reputation in the media and message boards, as it's seemed to me. 

Yes, I know Tramon and Shields were UDFA that turned out fabulous under his authority, so I think they set his reputation. 

But in more recent years, it doesn't seem that many of the young guys have improved much. 

Second, it seems that our guys give such huge cushions to opposing receivers. 

Third, last year HaHa would play SO deep, he'd make the tackle but be so far back that catches could be made underneath and still get 1st downs. 

So I'm going to say I'm ready for a change, and maybe a more aggressive, less-cushion approach?

But yeah, what do I know, not much, I'm probably crazy.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: marklawrence on January 11, 2019, 05:18:56 PM
What I find interesting about this is petine said he wanted to hire his own guy, implying that mm saddled him with capers guys.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 11, 2019, 07:09:09 PM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/11/packers-dismiss-defensive-pass-game-coordinator-joe-whitt-jr/2553966002/

What's intersting is that article seemed to think Whitt was let go by Gute, not Pettine.   Who knows but I think the coaches should hire their own staff and not the front office.

Campen is the only other guy with strong ties to MM- will be  interesting to see what happens to him
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 11, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
Interesting.  Fairly cryptic comment.  (For example, I can "work well" with pretty much everybody at my job, but I wouldn't necessarily think they all do the best work possible....?  So, maybe Pettine too thought they could do better? 

Murphy talked a lot about input from their Player Advisory Council.  I wonder if upper management got some input there that factored into this? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 11, 2019, 07:30:38 PM
It seems the team is getting rid of any lingering MM partisans, so MLF can have a free hand on shaping the team to his image. The departure of Whitt was necessary, as the players could well have used him as someone to whine to when they didn't like the way things were going. There has to be one strong voice in the room, one final arbiter of how the team is going to be run. Yes, there can be input, and suggestions, and collaboration. But in the end, there has to be unity behind the leader. Though the MLF is sure going to be aware of the elephant in the room.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: phanatic1 on January 12, 2019, 07:22:46 AM
Talking with Monken is certainly interesting.  This is a guy that is a rising offensive mind and will probably be in the next batch of hirings next season.  My worry with him a little is just that he would probably be a short time solution because of his popularity.  His interest would seem like a step back because he would not have any play calling duties, but maybe he sees this as a chance to be part of a quick turnaround, work with a hall of fame QB, and then be able to have his choice of open jobs as the hot coordinator after next season.

I gotta a feeling Monken ends up in Detroit with full reign of the offense there.  La Fleur is probably more likely to hire Hackett or if Shanahan will allow him to, hire his brother Mike or TJ McCartney away from the 49ers.  Shanahan has not allowed them to interview in other places, so that is un-likely. 

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: The GM on January 12, 2019, 08:10:42 AM
I'll take Monken for a year.  LaFleur can pick his brain, learn a few tricks, but the playcalling could be a make or break issue for him coming to Green Bay.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 12, 2019, 11:52:19 AM
Kind of interesting that Monken is only 2.5 years younger than McCarthy.  So while he's a "rising prospect" guy, age-wise he's at a very different place from MLF.  This is probably really a sweet-spot for him in his career.  If he doesn't get a head-coaching job pretty quick, not sure teams are going to be chasing hard for a first-time head coach if he goes another couple years and his mid- or late 50's in age. 

I'd have to figure that IF he gets a shot with Detroit and Matt Stafford with full play-calling, it would have to be a no-brainer to take that.  But I have no idea what kind of an interview or personality or leader Monken may be.  Maybe play-calling position with a high-level QB won't be available to him, and he'll need to settle for non-calling position? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: phanatic1 on January 12, 2019, 01:22:05 PM
Did see the 49ers have blocked their coaches from going anywhere, so that rules out LaFleur's brother.  On a side note- kind of sucks you want to work for your brother and you can't. 

Anyway, Monken and Hackett appear to be the only ones I have heard on the list for OC.  I wonder about guys like DeFillipo or Bill Lazor - the old Bengals/Dolphins OC.  With no play calling duties, that would seem the importance is on install and teaching and I would think both of those guys should be good at that.  Maybe a combo with OC and QB coach.  DeFillipo has sure went from the hot coach to basically no mention for anything. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 12, 2019, 01:57:24 PM
Kubiak is apparently available, too.  Read that he and Denver are on good terms, and they'd probably be generous enough to release him if he wanted to leave for an OC spot elsewhere. 

I live in Vikings country.  Not sure DeFillipo getting canned really means he isn't smart.  Zimmer is a pretty conservative guy.  And the Vikings had an awful, awful, awful offensive line; poor Cousins didn't have any time to see anything or for anybody to get open.  I'm not that expert, but I kinda feel like they had about 3 of their linemen who pass-blocked below the level of our right guard spot.  And maybe about three guys who run-blocked about that terribly, too.  So not sure how much to blame DeFillipo, and whether he might not look like a great prospect again if working on a team with a competent o-line. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 12, 2019, 04:48:23 PM
Hackett or Monken will not take a position which they don't call the plays.

The leading candidate right now for the packers OC is Jets WR coach Karl Dorrell.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 12, 2019, 04:53:09 PM
Dorell is interviewing for Packers WR coach
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 12, 2019, 05:00:10 PM
I read that he was in for OC.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/12/report-packers-interviewing-karl-dorrell-for-coordinator-job/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 12, 2019, 05:03:45 PM
Wait and see.

I’m hearing differently
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 12, 2019, 05:09:27 PM
http://nfltraderumors.co/packers-expected-to-interview-jets-wrs-coach-karl-dorrell-for-oc-job/

Link is misleading
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fargofootball on January 12, 2019, 06:28:35 PM
Kubiak is apparently available, too.  Read that he and Denver are on good terms, and they'd probably be generous enough to release him if he wanted to leave for an OC spot elsewhere. 

I live in Vikings country.  Not sure DeFillipo getting canned really means he isn't smart.  Zimmer is a pretty conservative guy.  And the Vikings had an awful, awful, awful offensive line; poor Cousins didn't have any time to see anything or for anybody to get open.  I'm not that expert, but I kinda feel like they had about 3 of their linemen who pass-blocked below the level of our right guard spot.  And maybe about three guys who run-blocked about that terribly, too.  So not sure how much to blame DeFillipo, and whether he might not look like a great prospect again if working on a team with a competent o-line.

In what world is Cousins poor, lol
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 13, 2019, 06:01:04 AM
Cousins isn't great but not bad.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: phanatic1 on January 13, 2019, 07:49:52 AM
Dorrell will probably become the WR coach according to reports.  It is going to be interesting to see if Campen leaves.  It sounds like the front office is ok with letting all of MM's guys walk away.  I do see the idea behind that and wanting all remnants of the previous staff gone.  But, finding good OL coaches isn't all that easy and Campan has had some success and I would think is popular with the players. 

I go back to wondering about DeFillipo for the OC job.  As others have pointed out, he is still a pretty darn good coach and didn't all of a sudden become a bozo that doesn't know what he is doing.  He is not going to get another job calling plays soon, so coming into Green Bay and working with LaFleur and rebuilding his reputation seems like a logical thing to do.  Be the OC/QB coach and if the Packers turn it around and become a factor again on offense, he is back in the conversations for becoming a head coach. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 13, 2019, 08:17:46 AM
It seems that between Hackett, Monken, and DeFillipo that ML should find himself an inventive mind to help built the game plans that he can execute as HC/play caller.

Things seem to be moving in positive directions.

No rush....................make good hiring choices.

My father always told me, "measure twice, cut once".
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 13, 2019, 04:13:44 PM
Campen leaving for Cleveland
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: SET4YRS on January 13, 2019, 05:35:12 PM
Campen leaving for Cleveland

 Not good.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: pilprin on January 13, 2019, 06:16:22 PM
Hopefully some key spots get set this week. Hackett, Dorrell, and.....I have no idea about OL coaches. I wonder if an Assistant OL coach at SF or the Rams will be targeted. Maybe even Jacksonville if Hackett is added.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 13, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
Hopefully some key spots get set this week. Hackett, Dorrell, and.....I have no idea about OL coaches. I wonder if an Assistant OL coach at SF or the Rams will be targeted. Maybe even Jacksonville if Hackett is added.

I think that they will try to block anyone that comes asking. Especially Matt Lafleur as his offense is basically compatible with the coaches from the 49ers and Rams.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 13, 2019, 10:30:06 PM
We all wanted a shakeup, a changing of the guard, an end to the "country club atmosphere", and have everyone fighting for their jobs. Well, we've gotten our wish. Is everyone happy now? Of course not. But unless you think the Packers OL has shown improvement and that the backups have shown steady improvement, you either look at the players or the coaching. Apparently the organization decided it was time for a fresh . And a complete break from the MM complacency era.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: MO.Pack on January 14, 2019, 01:53:31 AM
Monkin heading to Brown's to be O.C.  Wonder if ML will look at any of the teams assistant coaches that lost this weekend
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: MO.Pack on January 14, 2019, 04:49:28 AM
DiFillipo was a hot commodity just last year and with the packers having to face Minnesota twice a year might be advantageous for the hire.  Even though it sounds like he went  rogue against Zimmer his background is from the Ried and Peterson tree which ML could also use.  Like the post said above he would not have the playcalling.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 14, 2019, 11:35:17 AM
Hard to believe, but after reading this, I'm jealous of the Browns ability to create a coaching staff (other than HC):

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/14/browns-announce-nine-additions-to-freddie-kitchens-staff/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 14, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
Hackett is New OC
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: te43 on January 14, 2019, 03:36:41 PM
Hopefully some key spots get set this week. Hackett, Dorrell, and.....I have no idea about OL coaches. I wonder if an Assistant OL coach at SF or the Rams will be targeted. Maybe even Jacksonville if Hackett is added.

Assistant OL coach for SF has ties to Wisconsin. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: The GM on January 14, 2019, 03:48:39 PM
Pack hires Nate Hackett as OC.  Former Jags OC.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Shinesman on January 14, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
Pack hires Nate Hackett as OC.  Former Jags OC.

Saw that in the BR tean stream. Not sure how I feel about that. He did make things happen with Bortles for about a half of a season, but curious as to how innovative he is.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: phanatic1 on January 14, 2019, 04:22:16 PM
Looks like the Hackett hiring is official.  Sounds like ex-Miami Special Teams coach Darren Rizzi is going to be in for an interview.  And, ex-Miami Ass't Head Coach Shawn Jefferson is going to follow him in - probably for the WR coach spot. 

Hackett is pretty well versed in the style of offense LaFleur wants to employ and is thought of pretty well.  He didn't have much with Bortles in Jax, but brings a pretty long history with him.  Rizzi has had the Dolphins in the top 10 of special teams play several seasons, so he has had some success with those units.  Jefferson is an ex-player and has helped to develop some good WR's in Miami.  He is probably best known for his time as the Lions WR coach when Calvin Johnson rose up to be one of the top WR's in the league. 

Seems like all of these guys are all pretty well thought of around the league and would bring in some new ideas and have some results to show for their work. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Shinesman on January 15, 2019, 06:28:22 AM
Vikes tagged Kubiak as an "offensive adviser." Competition is getting stiff in the NFC North.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: whiterook87 on January 15, 2019, 12:09:32 PM
Packers should get on the horn ASAP and get DeGugliemo in GB. He would be an excellent replacement for Campen. He will be highly sought after.

 
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Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 15, 2019, 12:40:52 PM
Campen question:  I'm not an o-line expert, but I recall a couple years back some articles about how Campen taught an "outside", "wide" blocking technique.  Not necessarily instinctive or familiar to everybody, so not necessarily great for rookie success; and requiring a certain kind of strength, so maybe not suitable for everybody.  But I think the idea was that the outside blocking made it easier to hold guys and get away with it (the hand placement not being that different); and whereas where with inside blocking guys could use spin moves to get off the block and around the blocker, *if* you could lock an "outside block" on, it was very difficult for a defender to get free or to spin off the block.  One of our posters thought the Campen technique was one of the reasons Spriggs struggled to adapt and succeed. 

Any thoughts from you o-line experts about that?  I'm wondering whether transitioning to a different OL coach might lost some of the value of the Campen technique?  But might also be able to bring out some capacity from guys who weren't quite cut out for that approach?  And maybe better enable a rookie to step in faster?  Maybe have a little more move-the-line power with traditional inside blocking, even if you don't have quite as much lateral control over a defender's movements?  Or might transitioning to a different style really mess everybody up for a while and really hurt?  Or might really help, in that the veterans who know the Campen blocking will still use it when it helps them, and teach it to newer guys where it's well suited, and our guys will end up with optimal access to both approaches? 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: bmaafi on January 15, 2019, 09:15:17 PM
Not a online expert, but I did stay at a holiday inn once. I remember the article you are referring to. He taught his guys to use either inside or outside whichever they preferred or were more comfortable with.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: marklawrence on January 15, 2019, 09:40:06 PM
Monkin heading to Brown's to be O.C.  Wonder if ML will look at any of the teams assistant coaches that lost this weekend

Could we all maybe agree our new coach is abbreviated MLF?

It took me a couple second to get past "who cares what assistant coaches I look at? "
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Bignutz on January 16, 2019, 07:42:18 AM
Monkin heading to Brown's to be O.C.  Wonder if ML will look at any of the teams assistant coaches that lost this weekend

Could we all maybe agree our new coach is abbreviated MLF?

It took me a couple second to get past "who cares what assistant coaches I look at? "

Better than MF! 🌝
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 17, 2019, 04:02:21 AM
Monkin heading to Brown's to be O.C.  Wonder if ML will look at any of the teams assistant coaches that lost this weekend

Could we all maybe agree our new coach is abbreviated MLF?

It took me a couple second to get past "who cares what assistant coaches I look at? "

Better than MF! 🌝

How about we call him MLF when we are happy with his production and MF when we are not.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 17, 2019, 09:02:05 AM
www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/17/packers-expected-interview-former-bengals-ol-coach-frank-pollack/2603034002/

I haven't see anything about filling out the D staff - has anyone else?

In case you missed it Joe Whitt is now on the staff of Green Bay East  aka the Browns.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 17, 2019, 10:02:38 AM
www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/17/packers-expected-interview-former-bengals-ol-coach-frank-pollack/2603034002/

I haven't see anything about filling out the D staff - has anyone else?

In case you missed it Joe Whitt is now on the staff of Green Bay East  aka the Browns.

I read somewhere that Chris Shula was a maybe for the defensive staff.  He is Rams Assistant LB coach.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Descartes on January 17, 2019, 02:18:21 PM
"The Packers will also interview Redskins linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti for the same role, tweets Grant Paulsen of NBC Sports Washington. Olivadotti, 45, has essentially been a Redskins lifer: he joined the club in 2000 as a defensive quality control coach, and has worked for the team in various roles ever since, save for a 2011-13 stint at the University of Georgia. He’s familiar with LaFleur, as the two worked together in the nation’s capital in 2010 while LaFleur was Washington’s quarterbacks coach."

https://www.profootballrumors.com/green-bay-packers-news-rumors

From Wikipedia:

Maine Maritime Academy (1997)
Wide receivers coach

Indiana State (1998–1999)
Assistant coach

Washington Redskins (2000–2001)
Defensive quality control coach

Washington Redskins (2002–2003)
Defensive backs coach

Washington Redskins (2004)
Defensive quality control coach

Washington Redskins (2004–2006)
Special teams assistant

Washington Redskins (2007–2009)
Linebackers coach

Washington Redskins (2010)
Defensive assistant

Georgia (2011–2013)
Linebackers coach

Washington Redskins (2014–present)
Linebackers coach
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 18, 2019, 08:47:22 AM
Apparently they are trying to bring Getsy back. People may remember him for his various drills with WRs that, I believe, included bricks and tennis balls.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 18, 2019, 02:37:46 PM
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 18, 2019, 02:43:53 PM
www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/18/adam-stenavich-named-packers-offensive-line-coach/2617923002/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 18, 2019, 04:11:11 PM
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.

It seems like MLF is going with younger and motivated coaches. Hopefully the Packers will not be a bunch of Coaches in over their heads.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 18, 2019, 06:03:47 PM
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.

It seems like MLF is going with younger and motivated coaches. Hopefully the Packers will not be a bunch of Coaches in over their heads.

Campen was the offensive coach that I did not want GB to lose. 

Yeah, the trend certainly is to go younger.  We will see how long that last’s league wide.  I think that it is part of the ebb and flow of the league.  That being said, staffs are so much larger today and I think that takes a bit of weight off some of the titles that have always been there. 

Furthermore, I think that there may be something to having some coaches that are young, hungry, and may be able to better relate to young players.  This new CBA has changed the league in so many ways and, maybe, younger coaches that have only known this CBA have an advantage over those that are “old school”.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 18, 2019, 07:30:29 PM
On offense they've kept TE coach Angelichio, RB coach Sirmans (likely), and they're negotiating to bring back WR coach Getsey.

This is Hackett's 3rd NFL OC gig.

From my point of view, it's only the HC (MLF) and the OL coach (Stenovich) that are the newbie's here. They tabbed Stenovich because MLF wants to use the same type of running/blocking scheme that Shanahan uses in SF. Simple!

Defense has DC Pettine and DL Montogomery (both,who they value) as holdovers. Some of the "D" staff is YTBD, as is the ST's coach.

I don't have a great sense of apprehension about being "too young" as a coaching staff.

Let's let it play out before we start with the hand wringing.

edit: Just hear that Jason Simmons, who coached Packers secondary last year, may be retained as well. And I believe Olivadatti is coming to coach the LB's.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 18, 2019, 07:38:49 PM
Adam Stenavich is the new OL coach. He used to be a Kyle Shanahan assistant. From Marshfield. Not much experience.

It seems like MLF is going with younger and motivated coaches. Hopefully the Packers will not be a bunch of Coaches in over their heads.

Campen was the offensive coach that I did not want GB to lose. 

Yeah, the trend certainly is to go younger.  We will see how long that last’s league wide.  I think that it is part of the ebb and flow of the league.  That being said, staffs are so much larger today and I think that takes a bit of weight off some of the titles that have always been there. 

Furthermore, I think that there may be something to having some coaches that are young, hungry, and may be able to better relate to young players.  This new CBA has changed the league in so many ways and, maybe, younger coaches that have only known this CBA have an advantage over those that are “old school”.

I was hoping for the guy from Colts who would have been an upgrade over Campen.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 18, 2019, 09:41:11 PM
Nobody named as ST's coach. Apparently Zook is a hard man to replace.  :o
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Shinesman on January 19, 2019, 01:48:58 AM
I laughed at the fact that so many packers assistants have been hired, even though the positions they coached have vastly underwhelmed in individual performance. Then I remembered we just hired some cast offs. Then suddenly I stare sadly, thinking we may still not be out of the rut.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: footballdad on January 19, 2019, 02:37:40 AM
How do we know that ANYONE would be an upgrade over Campen? Consider how the Colts o-line was built vs the Packers.

Colts starting 5:

LT - Anthony Castonzo - Round 1 #22
LG - Quenton Nelson - Round 1 #6
C - Ryan Kelly - Round 1 #18
RG - Mark Glowinski - Round 4 #134 - (soon to be unrestricted free agent 2019)
RT - Braden Smith - Round 2 #37

            vs

Packers starting 5:

LT - David Bahktiari - Round 4 #109
LG - Lane Taylor - Undrafted
C - Corey Linsley - Round 5 #161
RG - Justin McCray - Undrafted
RT - Brian Bulaga - Round 1 #23

I think one could make a valid argument that Campen did more with less. Let us not forget that Nelson and Smith were added in the 2018 draft. Was the turnaround due to coaching or a talent infusion?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 19, 2019, 05:31:33 AM
Apparently the OL coach hiring isn't official. They are still interviewing today for that position.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 19, 2019, 12:47:35 PM
PackersNews.com  has learned that the #Packers have hired former Washington linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti for the same position on Mike Pettine’s defensive staff

Preston Smith, a Washington LB, is one of the top free agents this off season.   Maybe this guy can help bring Smith to Green Bay.



Currently the Packers have all of the key coaching positions on offense except for WR.  They may add an assistant O line coach but at least the position is covered.

Likewise they have at least one coach at each position on defense but might add extras.

That means the biggie that hasn't been filled is ST coach.  The guy they , and several other teams like, hasn't signed on with anyone that I know of so it seems from the outside coming to GB is still an option   I suspect the staff will be in place within the next few days

It has been quite a whirlwind few days for MLF.  Hopefully he can catch his breath and take care of ' detail's like buying a house, moving his family to GB if they are going to move now and so forth.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 21, 2019, 01:56:25 PM
The former Miami ST teams coach is not going to be with the Packers according to Silverstein.  I haven't seen any other potential candidates names mentioned.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 21, 2019, 03:20:28 PM
How do we know that ANYONE would be an upgrade over Campen? Consider how the Colts o-line was built vs the Packers.

Colts starting 5:

LT - Anthony Castonzo - Round 1 #22
LG - Quenton Nelson - Round 1 #6
C - Ryan Kelly - Round 1 #18
RG - Mark Glowinski - Round 4 #134 - (soon to be unrestricted free agent 2019)
RT - Braden Smith - Round 2 #37

            vs

Packers starting 5:

LT - David Bahktiari - Round 4 #109
LG - Lane Taylor - Undrafted
C - Corey Linsley - Round 5 #161
RG - Justin McCray - Undrafted
RT - Brian Bulaga - Round 1 #23

I think one could make a valid argument that Campen did more with less. Let us not forget that Nelson and Smith were added in the 2018 draft. Was the turnaround due to coaching or a talent infusion?

I absolutely agree.  I have tremendous respect for Campen and it sounds like his squad was all about the guy.  I am not sure how well a new coach can, or even if he will, teach the over technique that GB has become known for.  The loss of Campen makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Shinesman on January 21, 2019, 06:44:14 PM
How do we know that ANYONE would be an upgrade over Campen? Consider how the Colts o-line was built vs the Packers.

Colts starting 5:

LT - Anthony Castonzo - Round 1 #22
LG - Quenton Nelson - Round 1 #6
C - Ryan Kelly - Round 1 #18
RG - Mark Glowinski - Round 4 #134 - (soon to be unrestricted free agent 2019)
RT - Braden Smith - Round 2 #37

            vs

Packers starting 5:

LT - David Bahktiari - Round 4 #109
LG - Lane Taylor - Undrafted
C - Corey Linsley - Round 5 #161
RG - Justin McCray - Undrafted
RT - Brian Bulaga - Round 1 #23

I think one could make a valid argument that Campen did more with less. Let us not forget that Nelson and Smith were added in the 2018 draft. Was the turnaround due to coaching or a talent infusion?

I absolutely agree.  I have tremendous respect for Campen and it sounds like his squad was all about the guy.  I am not sure how well a new coach can, or even if he will, teach the over technique that GB has become known for.  The loss of Campen makes me cringe.

This may be true, but shouldnt a coach adjust the technique to the ability of his players? If they arent capable of running the scheme, use one they can perform well under. That seemed to be the mantra for green bay coaching, dont adjust the concepts or scheme, just tell the players they have to get better at it. I think it was no coincidence it takes a special talent to gain decent yardage on the ground behind our Oline. Maybe with a new scheme or philosophy, we will see an upgrade in how some of the groups work, hopefully the Oline unit!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: bmaafi on January 21, 2019, 07:45:58 PM
Looks like Getsy has been brought back to coach arod. He will coach the qbs
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 21, 2019, 08:55:05 PM
Reportedly he and AR have a solid relationship.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 21, 2019, 10:43:15 PM
Justin Outten is getting a promotion and coming over from ATL to be the TE coach.  He and MLF worked together in ATL.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 22, 2019, 05:38:17 AM
The new tight ends coach was coaching in high school 2 years ago.  This is a very young, inexperienced staff. A couple of positions left- chance to get some experienced guys.

It is widely expected that the LB coach is going to join Flores whereever he is going Miami?  That means they have a DB and DL coach from last year still around.  I haven't seen any speculation on what they are going to do on the defensive side.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 22, 2019, 12:57:44 PM
The new tight ends coach was coaching in high school 2 years ago.  This is a very young, inexperienced staff. A couple of positions left- chance to get some experienced guys.

It is widely expected that the LB coach is going to join Flores whereever he is going Miami?  That means they have a DB and DL coach from last year still around.  I haven't seen any speculation on what they are going to do on the defensive side.

MLF seems to be going with a similar blue print of the Rams.

Young HC, OC, and offensive staff.

Older/experienced DC who works with the HC to get coaches HE wants.

ST's is the conundrum right now. Lot's of names being floated after they moved on from Rizzi, who asked for the moon to come to GB.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 22, 2019, 04:14:39 PM
So, does the hiring of Getsy mean a more productive Rodgers? Hopefully.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/luke-getsys-return-unconventional-but-significant-for-aaron-rodgers-packers-131
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 22, 2019, 04:45:23 PM
How do we know that ANYONE would be an upgrade over Campen? Consider how the Colts o-line was built vs the Packers.

Colts starting 5:

LT - Anthony Castonzo - Round 1 #22
LG - Quenton Nelson - Round 1 #6
C - Ryan Kelly - Round 1 #18
RG - Mark Glowinski - Round 4 #134 - (soon to be unrestricted free agent 2019)
RT - Braden Smith - Round 2 #37

            vs

Packers starting 5:

LT - David Bahktiari - Round 4 #109
LG - Lane Taylor - Undrafted
C - Corey Linsley - Round 5 #161
RG - Justin McCray - Undrafted
RT - Brian Bulaga - Round 1 #23

I think one could make a valid argument that Campen did more with less. Let us not forget that Nelson and Smith were added in the 2018 draft. Was the turnaround due to coaching or a talent infusion?

I absolutely agree.  I have tremendous respect for Campen and it sounds like his squad was all about the guy.  I am not sure how well a new coach can, or even if he will, teach the over technique that GB has become known for.  The loss of Campen makes me cringe.

This may be true, but shouldnt a coach adjust the technique to the ability of his players? If they arent capable of running the scheme, use one they can perform well under. That seemed to be the mantra for green bay coaching, dont adjust the concepts or scheme, just tell the players they have to get better at it. I think it was no coincidence it takes a special talent to gain decent yardage on the ground behind our Oline. Maybe with a new scheme or philosophy, we will see an upgrade in how some of the groups work, hopefully the Oline unit!

I am agreeing with you and that is why I am concerned about a new coach not knowing how to teach the over technique.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: JerryA on January 22, 2019, 04:48:07 PM
The new tight ends coach was coaching in high school 2 years ago.  This is a very young, inexperienced staff. A couple of positions left- chance to get some experienced guys.

It is widely expected that the LB coach is going to join Flores whereever he is going Miami?  That means they have a DB and DL coach from last year still around.  I haven't seen any speculation on what they are going to do on the defensive side.

MLF seems to be going with a similar blue print of the Rams.

Young HC, OC, and offensive staff.

Older/experienced DC who works with the HC to get coaches HE wants.

ST's is the conundrum right now. Lot's of names being floated after they moved on from Rizzi, who asked for the moon to come to GB.

Open your eyes...we have a QB running the show.  Now involved in hiring assistant coaches.  This will not end well!
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: phanatic1 on January 22, 2019, 05:00:32 PM
Getsy's departure was always somewhat curious to me in the fact  seemed like MM didn't really fight very hard to keep him and sometimes sounded like he welcomed him leaving.  Maybe that was just my take on it. 

Anyway, bringing him back is great news and pairing him with Rodgers might be just what was needed.  He brought some un-conventional workouts, but great results with the WR's.  And the fact that Rodgers bought into him when he was in Green Bay before probably bodes well. 

Along with that, Getsy will fit the new young head coach mold in a couple of years.  If he is part of a Rodgers turnaround and the Packers move back to be relevant in the NFC, his name will quickly be talked about like a Zac Taylor was talked about this year. 

I don't mind the youth of this staff, but I would think LaFleur will look to secure a veteran of some sort in one of the remaining positions.  I can see a lot of energy and commitment to renew this organization.  Whether it comes together and means wins, we don't know yet, but a lack of effort by the coaching staff shouldn't be a problem. 
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 22, 2019, 05:12:24 PM
MLF is assembling a really young collection on the offensive side.  Can't remember everybody, but him, QB, OC, TE are all 30's guys.  I think experience is a good teacher, and guys can pick up ideas (as well as contacts) over time.  So, don't want to undervalue experience.  And it may be a disaster. 

Still, I think there can be a huge energy in having a bunch of ambitious, self-confident, high-energy young guys trying to make their mark and prove themselves.  Can be super fun to have a tight group with all the energy to work long hours, and explore ideas, trying to come up with smart, creative solutions; and doing together with peers who share the commitments and goals.  Hopefully liking and trusting each other, so that anybody can contribute ideas, and anybody can critique ideas, even ideas sources from the head coach or the OC.  Could be a really productive synergy. 

Also think that sometimes players will listen better to younger guys, not their fathers' age. 

I'm also optimistic for excellent intelligence and teaching ability, and patience with teaching young players.  Just straight-out intelligence and thinking ability is really important, I think; until it's evident otherwise, I'm going to hope MLF really is smarter than the average NFL coach, and that he recognizes smarts and creativity in the guys he's assembled. 

Should be fun.   
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 22, 2019, 05:20:55 PM
What blocking technique were they teaching in SF?

Was their technique working for them?

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 22, 2019, 06:04:06 PM
So, the Packers interview a potential ST's coach, even though he was DEMOTED after three seasons in the same position in Jacksonville. Why does this make me nervous?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/22/mike-mallory-interviews-for-packers-special-teams-job/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 24, 2019, 06:14:30 PM
So, the Packers interview a potential ST's coach, even though he was DEMOTED after three seasons in the same position in Jacksonville. Why does this make me nervous?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/22/mike-mallory-interviews-for-packers-special-teams-job/

Another rumor, another potential bad choice:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/24/packers-interview-tom-quinn-for-special-teams-job/

The year after Quinn was fired, the Giants made great strides on ST's. So, another rumor, another apparent loser. If this is an indication of the level of competency that MLF is putting on his staff...

https://247sports.com/nfl/new-york-giants/Article/New-York-Giants-special-teams-rankings-NFL-128256294/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 24, 2019, 08:29:28 PM
The hires of the TE coach, OL coach, and ILB coach.... Here are their mugshots.

(https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_8_desktop_mobile/f_auto/packers/z7kogc8fotxk9eoaagkb.jpg)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: craig on January 24, 2019, 10:05:24 PM
I think the OL is the mug on the right.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 25, 2019, 08:33:32 AM
I think the OL is the mug on the right.

Yeah, I was thinking the same. But it was probably like a bad team photo day...
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 25, 2019, 02:12:46 PM
Left to right.
Olivadotti, Outten, and Stenovich. (C'mon! You don't recognize a Sconny boy when you see one?!)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 25, 2019, 07:10:39 PM
https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/01/25/packers-hire-mike-pettine-pal-mike-smith-coach-outside-linebackers/2681213002/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 25, 2019, 10:49:45 PM
Mike Clemons said that he sees it as the need for new voices.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: pilprin on January 26, 2019, 07:07:41 AM
Stenovich is a zone blocking scheme guy. Seems like an up and comer, but would have preferred Dennison if he was available. UW OLinemen may fit better in GB now...similar blocking schemes. It does make me wonder if we need a different RB who is more of a one cut guy...

Oetten is an interesting selection, but understands the new offense.

Olavadatti and Smith I think are really good adds as LB coaches

I think the coaches added so far understand the systems that are going to be instituted. So a bit short on experience, but they should all be on the same or similar page scheme wise.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 26, 2019, 08:51:44 AM
Stenovich is a zone blocking scheme guy. Seems like an up and comer, but would have preferred Dennison if he was available. UW OLinemen may fit better in GB now...similar blocking schemes. It does make me wonder if we need a different RB who is more of a one cut guy...

Oetten is an interesting selection, but understands the new offense.

Olavadatti and Smith I think are really good adds as LB coaches

I think the coaches added so far understand the systems that are going to be instituted. So a bit short on experience, but they should all be on the same or similar page scheme wise.

If you looked at it last Year, Aaron Jones ran as if it was zone blocking, that is the reason why he did really good when he was in. The called plays and the designated holes he was supposed to hit were consistently not open as defenses had wised up to the play calling and tendencies. Aaron just took the opening. Remember for years now, that the running backs were slow in the back field waiting for an opening that never came.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 26, 2019, 08:54:05 AM
The coaching additions on defense, I believe, are Pettine's choice. He's been bringing in "his guys" with MLF signing off with his approval. I, for one, am glad to see this. It seems to indicate that MLF will let MP have free reign over his defense with little/none interference from the HC.

The Offensive additions either have a past connection to MLF or they come from teams where the HC has a previous tie to MLF, so they will all be versed in the offense that MLF will install.

I have a good feeling about how this staff is coming together.

Now, just make a smart choice on a ST's coach..............may have to dip into the college ranks. Slim pick'ins in the NFL.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: #66 on January 26, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
Stenovich is a zone blocking scheme guy. Seems like an up and comer, but would have preferred Dennison if he was available. UW OLinemen may fit better in GB now...similar blocking schemes. It does make me wonder if we need a different RB who is more of a one cut guy...

Oetten is an interesting selection, but understands the new offense.

Olavadatti and Smith I think are really good adds as LB coaches

I think the coaches added so far understand the systems that are going to be instituted. So a bit short on experience, but they should all be on the same or similar page scheme wise.

If you looked at it last Year, Aaron Jones ran as if it was zone blocking, that is the reason why he did really good when he was in. The called plays and the designated holes he was supposed to hit were consistently not open as defenses had wised up to the play calling and tendencies. Aaron just took the opening. Remember for years now, that the running backs were slow in the back field waiting for an opening that never came.
Totally agree. Good scheme for Jones.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 26, 2019, 03:40:44 PM
I heard that MLF wants to run a power zone scheme. (Runs designed to go just outside the OT/TE.)

That scheme would fit Jones well since he is a slashing type runner.

I you look at the following list, you'll see that most of NFL stops that MLF has made involves the outside (power) zone, or a similar version.

ATL, HOU, LA, and MLF's mentor Kyle Shanahan in SF (although MLF didn't coach there).

WASH is straight up power blocking, but that's Gruden's scheme. MLF coached under Mike Shanahan and he ran an outside zone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/8l31ng/run_blocking_scheme_for_all_32_nfl_teams/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/8l31ng/run_blocking_scheme_for_all_32_nfl_teams/)
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: The GM on January 27, 2019, 12:52:38 PM
MLF is assembling a really young collection on the offensive side.  Can't remember everybody, but him, QB, OC, TE are all 30's guys.  I think experience is a good teacher, and guys can pick up ideas (as well as contacts) over time.  So, don't want to undervalue experience.  And it may be a disaster. 

Still, I think there can be a huge energy in having a bunch of ambitious, self-confident, high-energy young guys trying to make their mark and prove themselves.  Can be super fun to have a tight group with all the energy to work long hours, and explore ideas, trying to come up with smart, creative solutions; and doing together with peers who share the commitments and goals.  Hopefully liking and trusting each other, so that anybody can contribute ideas, and anybody can critique ideas, even ideas sources from the head coach or the OC.  Could be a really productive synergy. 

Also think that sometimes players will listen better to younger guys, not their fathers' age. 

I'm also optimistic for excellent intelligence and teaching ability, and patience with teaching young players.  Just straight-out intelligence and thinking ability is really important, I think; until it's evident otherwise, I'm going to hope MLF really is smarter than the average NFL coach, and that he recognizes smarts and creativity in the guys he's assembled. 

Should be fun.

Agree with much of this.  My hope is they develop a roster that has the backups pushing the starters.  I think there will be some growing pains, but I think we will know in 2-3 years if this is going to work or go south quickly.  One thing is clear to me, we needed to make changes.   7-9 in 2017 and 6-9-1 in 2018 isn't going to cut it.  Getting blown out by Detroit 31-0 the last game tells me a lot about the coaching staff and players.   Needed new leadership in the coaching staffs and on the field.   I'm really hoping the culture changes to developing players to play and not just occupying roster spots.  Gute needs to be constantly churning that roster and if players cant play, get rid of them.   At the same time, a new system could be what the doctor ordered for some current players.    Guys like Williams, or Kumerow or any number of players on the roster could flourish with this change.   Training camp could find some big surprises this year, but you gotta find players who are hungry and can play in this system and get rid of the ones who haven't or can't.  Thats not always easy.  JMO
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: TAYLORBOY on January 27, 2019, 03:23:09 PM
The coaching additions on defense, I believe, are Pettine's choice. He's been bringing in "his guys" with MLF signing off .

Pettine was NOT onboard about Joe Whitt being let go...

Joe had been here too long and upstairs wanted to flush all M3 coaches who had ties to him..
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 27, 2019, 04:31:12 PM
The coaching additions on defense, I believe, are Pettine's choice. He's been bringing in "his guys" with MLF signing off .

Pettine was NOT onboard about Joe Whitt being let go...

Joe had been here too long and upstairs wanted to flush all M3 coaches who had ties to him..

I found this at another site.
While it confirms your claim the front office wanted to make a break from “MM’s guys “, it doesn’t say anything about Pettine NOT being on board with the decision.

Quote
The Packers officially kept Pettine as defensive coordinator on Friday, and two sources said it was not Pettine’s call to part ways with Whitt. Citing a source, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that the decision on Whitt was likely made “by the front office.” Pettine, while hired by McCarthy, came aboard last year.

“They just want to move on from the guys who were with McCarthy the longest,” one league source told the State Journal. “They want to make a clean break.”
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 29, 2019, 06:41:02 AM
8. Texans offensive assistant/ex-Patriots receiver Wes Welker is on the circuit—he interviewed for a job with Green Bay last week and San Francisco on Monday. The Niners are restructuring a bit after the departure of passing-game coordinator Rich Scangarello to Denver.
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This was reported by SI- He obviously could be a WR coach but could play a role on  special teams as well.

Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 29, 2019, 11:21:09 AM
Welker could be a good hire, especially with the emphasis the new offense may put on slot receiver.

The fact he wasn’t offered right away may be that MLF has his eyes on someone from the Rams and has to wait until Monday to contact that person.

Whatever that spot is for, Welker may be the candidate for the other spot, so we wait.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: footballdad on January 30, 2019, 02:18:22 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/30/shawn-mennenga-interviews-with-packers/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: footballdad on January 30, 2019, 02:19:58 AM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/29/report-packers-to-hire-alvis-whitted-as-wide-receivers-coach/
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: dannobanano on January 30, 2019, 05:51:32 AM
Read that earlier.
Thanks for posting.

Getting close to a full staff
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 30, 2019, 05:20:03 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/30/shawn-mennenga-interviews-with-packers/

Then there is this: https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-closing-in-on-sts-coaching-search-leaning-towards-shawn-mennenga-340

So, apparently the ST coach that was considered the best available was considered too expensive by the Packers. Then they changed their minds, but the guy decided he didn't like being "low balled" in the salary department, and went elsewhere. So, instead, the team will save money and hire a guy who couldn't make it in the NFL, but returned to college. So, what are they going to do with the savings?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 30, 2019, 05:55:18 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/30/shawn-mennenga-interviews-with-packers/

Then there is this: https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-closing-in-on-sts-coaching-search-leaning-towards-shawn-mennenga-340

So, apparently the ST coach that was considered the best available was considered too expensive by the Packers. Then they changed their minds, but the guy decided he didn't like being "low balled" in the salary department, and went elsewhere. So, instead, the team will save money and hire a guy who couldn't make it in the NFL, but returned to college. So, what are they going to do with the savings?

From what I have seen is that he wanted the Packers job, but moving his family to Green Bay was the issue as it is not warm like Miami.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Fox_NFLs_GG on January 30, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/29/report-packers-to-hire-alvis-whitted-as-wide-receivers-coach/

He has experience in the NFL as a player and has done a really good job coaching WRs in College. Clearly he is an upgrade. Now if he can get will Getsy and exchange notes about Getsy's unorthodox WR coaching that turned out great that might be a plus.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: ricky on January 30, 2019, 07:20:25 PM

Understand, I hope I'm wrong. That the ST's will improve dramatically; that MCL will get Rodgers back to peak efficiency; that the assistants hired are going to do a good job of not only coaching the players, but holding them accountable for their actions on and off the field. But the hirings so far have been somewhat underwhelming, from what has been written. That there are a lot of guys with potential, that they're younger and more open to new ideas. But where are the experienced guys to offer experience and perspective?
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: Shinesman on January 31, 2019, 03:01:38 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/30/shawn-mennenga-interviews-with-packers/

Then there is this: https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/packers-closing-in-on-sts-coaching-search-leaning-towards-shawn-mennenga-340

So, apparently the ST coach that was considered the best available was considered too expensive by the Packers. Then they changed their minds, but the guy decided he didn't like being "low balled" in the salary department, and went elsewhere. So, instead, the team will save money and hire a guy who couldn't make it in the NFL, but returned to college. So, what are they going to do with the savings?

From what I have seen is that he wanted the Packers job, but moving his family to Green Bay was the issue as it is not warm like Miami.

So shun his career so his wife can stay on a tanning towel.... we dont need that weak-spoiled breed here.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: mancl on January 31, 2019, 09:55:41 AM
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The Packers have hired Vanderbilt's Shawn Mennenga as special teams coach, a source said. It's a big hire for new Packers coach Matt LaFleur because the Packers ranked last in the NFL in special teams, according to Rick Gosselin's annual rankings. More on the hire to come on ESPN

This pretty much covers the coaching staff.  Will probably add an assistant O line coach and another secondary coach.  Haven't heard anything about strength and conditioning so I have to assume they will retain staff.  As someone pointed out maybe they are looking to add someone from the Rams- we will know soon enough
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Post by: ricky on January 31, 2019, 10:53:58 AM
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The Packers have hired Vanderbilt's Shawn Mennenga as special teams coach, a source said. It's a big hire for new Packers coach Matt LaFleur because the Packers ranked last in the NFL in special teams, according to Rick Gosselin's annual rankings. More on the hire to come on ESPN

This pretty much covers the coaching staff.  Will probably add an assistant O line coach and another secondary coach.  Haven't heard anything about strength and conditioning so I have to assume they will retain staff.  As someone pointed out maybe they are looking to add someone from the Rams- we will know soon enough

Retaining the strength and conditioning staff? This has been a continuing problem for the Packers, especially pulled muscles and hamstrings. Yes, it happens around the league, but keeping the old staff in place seems to be telling the team and fans that nothing can be done to prevent these sorts of injuries.
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Post by: dannobanano on January 31, 2019, 11:26:37 AM
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The Packers have hired Vanderbilt's Shawn Mennenga as special teams coach, a source said. It's a big hire for new Packers coach Matt LaFleur because the Packers ranked last in the NFL in special teams, according to Rick Gosselin's annual rankings. More on the hire to come on ESPN

This pretty much covers the coaching staff.  Will probably add an assistant O line coach and another secondary coach.  Haven't heard anything about strength and conditioning so I have to assume they will retain staff.  As someone pointed out maybe they are looking to add someone from the Rams- we will know soon enough

Retaining the strength and conditioning staff? This has been a continuing problem for the Packers, especially pulled muscles and hamstrings. Yes, it happens around the league, but keeping the old staff in place seems to be telling the team and fans that nothing can be done to prevent these sorts of injuries.

We don't know if MLF will have a S/C philosophy that he may want the staff to employ.

If so, we could see a change in the type of S/C regime from what has been used in the past.

I remember, at some point in his tenure, MM changed from resistance training to free weights, and then later added more flexibility training as well.

It all starts from the top (MLF) and trickles down.
Title: Re: Assistant Coach Hirings/Firings
Post by: footballdad on February 01, 2019, 01:44:46 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/01/packers-promote-jason-simmons-ryan-downard-retain-jerry-montgomery-ben-sirmans-on-coaching-staff/