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Title: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 08, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
The NFL has their supplemental draft on Wednesday and the Packers just might be players this year.

The Packers have been sitting at 89 players on the roster since the release of Bibbs, could they have been keeping a spot open for Washington State safety Jalen Thompson?

Reported by Tony Pauline that twenty-six teams were on hand for Thompson’s workout including the director of scouting for the Houston Texans.  He measured 5103 and 186 pounds with hands at 8 3/8 inches and an arm length of 31 ¼ inches.

Thompson hit 33.5 inches in the vertical jump, 10-feet-4-inches in the broad jump and completed 11 reps on the bench press.  As I reported on twitter, his initial forty time came in around 4.47 seconds with his second clocking 4.56 seconds.

The other marks included 11.68 seconds in the 60-yard shuttle, 4.16 seconds in the short shuttle and 6.98 seconds in the three cone. The position drills were run primarily by the Atlanta Falcons, though other teams stepped in and requested specific drills.

Thompson is meeting with the Green Bay Packers this afternoon as the team has shown a lot of interest in the safety.  Other teams lining up for Thompson included the New England Patriots, Los Angeles Rams, Miami Dolphins, Indianapolis Colts and Arizona Cardinals.

Stamped as a fourth-round prospect by several scouts this spring, the feeling is Thompson will get drafted somewhere in the later rounds during Wednesday’s supplemental draft, which begins at 1PM.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: ricky on July 08, 2019, 07:53:30 PM
The somewhat intriguing question is whether any team will offer a higher draft pick (I've read a second rounder is possible- no link, because I read that a while ago). As always, the worth of the player is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 09, 2019, 01:13:02 PM
The Packers seem very serious about possibly taking Thompson with a pick, if that happens I would expect a move of Josh Jones in the next day or two after that. It would be a fire sale of Jones, guessing a player for player deal for another teams underachiever. The next few days might be interesting to watch play out.
 
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Can confirm; the Green Bay Packers flew Jalen Thompson/S to their facility after yesterday's workout for medicals and interviews in preparation for tomorrow's supplemental draft.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: dannobanano on July 09, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
I’ve got no problem with that line of thinking (player for player).

Would be nice if they could get another TE for him, but that’s just me wishing on a star.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: The GM on July 09, 2019, 07:19:18 PM
The somewhat intriguing question is whether any team will offer a higher draft pick (I've read a second rounder is possible- no link, because I read that a while ago). As always, the worth of the player is in the eye of the beholder.

Stranger things have happened, but I dont see Gute taking him unless he falls into the late rounds. I think the Packers would be much more secretive if they were seriously interested.  This sounds like a "We are leaving no stone unturned" statement.  Guess well find out tomorrow how interested they are.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: marklawrence on July 09, 2019, 09:40:21 PM
If Jalen is taken, I believe that will be 3 players taken in the supplemental drafts in the last 12 years. Total. Not a lot of action in the supplementals.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: OneTwoSixFive on July 10, 2019, 04:19:09 AM
Where would you expect him to be taken ? Fourth, fifth round pick maybe ?
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 06:42:35 AM
If Jalen is taken, I believe that will be 3 players taken in the supplemental drafts in the last 12 years. Total. Not a lot of action in the supplementals.

Actually a few more than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_supplemental_draft_picks
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 06:50:40 AM
Where would you expect him to be taken ? Fourth, fifth round pick maybe ?

Hoping the Packers won't spend higher than a 4th. If someone ahead of them in the draft order is also a good likelihood of taking him, they may feel the need to use a 3rd if they are that high on him. Kind of like the Giants and Sam Beal last season.  Personally hope someone else takes him, if the pick is going to be that high.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 07:18:41 AM
Where would you expect him to be taken ? Fourth, fifth round pick maybe ?

Some good insight from Tony Pauline here.

draftanalyst.com/supplemental-draft-latest-word-around-league
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: OneTwoSixFive on July 10, 2019, 09:00:16 AM
Some good insight from Tony Pauline here.

draftanalyst.com/supplemental-draft-latest-word-around-league

Aha, my instincts (4th to 5th round talent) were supported by Pauline, though he adds that despite his value, he may go one or even two rounds later, as teams don't like to use up the following years picks. If you lose a 6th or 7th rounder though, no big deal.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 10:02:19 AM
The Packers own the 10th pick in each round of the supplemental draft today and also the 21st pick in the 7th round if they should chose to use any of them. 
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 10:13:43 AM
Round 1 is completed and no player was selected, as was expected.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 10:23:12 AM
Bad info, no picks in the 2nd.

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Round 2 over. No picks.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 10:35:05 AM
Round 3 over and again no picks.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 10:45:55 AM
No picks in the 4th. It should get interesting now.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 10:54:32 AM
The Cardinals select Thompson in the 5th round, 6 picks ahead of the Packers. End of the Thompson to the Packers hopes/drama.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 10, 2019, 11:13:58 AM

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The NFL supplemental draft has ended with just one player picked: Washington State DB Jalen Thompson to #Cardinals in Round 5.

West Virginia WR Marcus Simms, Syracuse LB Shyheim Cullen, Northland CC TE Devonaire Clarington and St. Francis DB Bryant Perry are now free agents.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: ricky on July 10, 2019, 11:55:48 AM
This may not be the end. After all, he is only on the 90 man roster. Will he make the cut to 53? And if he doesn't, the Packers could have another chance to pick him up on the waiver wire. And if not this season, next year presents new opportunities. But then again, there will be a new draft class, new FA's, and quite possibly some of the guys on the roster could take that proverbial "next step".
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: dannobanano on July 10, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
It’s possible that the Ibrahim Campbell talk gets louder now. He played for Pettine in Cleveland and had18 tackles in 3 games for the Packers last year before his ACL went kaflooie.
He’s an unsigned FA, so GB could sign him as soon as he can pass a physical.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: marklawrence on July 10, 2019, 02:40:02 PM
If Jalen is taken, I believe that will be 3 players taken in the supplemental drafts in the last 12 years. Total. Not a lot of action in the supplementals.

Actually a few more than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_supplemental_draft_picks

Well, we could have a discussion about how many of those guys are "players," but you're right, it was 10, not three.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: The GM on July 10, 2019, 06:49:21 PM
If Jalen is taken, I believe that will be 3 players taken in the supplemental drafts in the last 12 years. Total. Not a lot of action in the supplementals.

Actually a few more than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_supplemental_draft_picks

Well, we could have a discussion about how many of those guys are "players," but you're right, it was 10, not three.

Kosar was probably the most sought after of the bunch.  He had 3 or 4 teams clamoring and trading up for the pick.  Cleveland ended up trading quite a bit to Buffalo for the pick.  Pete Rozelle had to get involved because Kosars eligibility for the supplemental draft was all jacked up and teams had made trades thinking he was coming out. Rozelle basically told Kosar it was up to him if he wanted to come out or stay for the next draft.  Kosar came out, and was drafted by the Browns.  There were a lot of moving parts to that sup draft.  I dont think theres been anything like it since.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 12, 2019, 08:07:48 AM
Some final word information from Tony Pauline's mailbag.

Tony, you wrote an article the night before the supplemental draft and said three teams were targeting Jalen Thompson; the Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, and Arizona Cardinals.  You were right on the mark with Arizona.  Any word on how close the other two were to bidding on Thompson?

I was told the night before Wednesday’s draft that the Packers decided not to use a pick on Thompson during the supplemental draft despite the fact they liked him.  Their game plan was to go hard if Thompson was not selected in the draft and offer him a big free agent contract.  I was informed the Texans put in a fifth-round bid for Thompson but it was too late as the Cardinals got to him first.

Were there any other teams interested in Thompson?  Were you hearing of any late interest?

The Minnesota Viking were doing a lot of digging deep and the belief was they had put in a late round bid (6th/7th) for him. However, this is only what I’ve heard so there is no confirmation. The New York Jets also had a lot of interest in Thompson but like the Packers, they were not going to use a draft pick on him. Rather, they were looking to outbid everyone else with a free agent offer.  They did the same thing in last year’s supplemental draft with Brandon Bryant, who is still on the roster.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: dannobanano on July 12, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Thanks RT. Nice insight from Tony.

I read yesterday that Natrell Jamerson is being groomed to play that same position as Thompson would have been pegged for. The player that is the starter at that spot is Darnell Savage.

There is still talk that Ibrahiem Campbell may be brought back at some point as well, as he is versed in Pettine's defense and played well in the 3 games he played last year.
Still recovering from ACL surgery, so he might be a backup plan in case someone goes down during the season.
Title: Re: Supplemental draft
Post by: RT on July 12, 2019, 06:20:29 PM
I have revisited the Campbell re-sign thought a few times this off season and IMHO I think Campbell and Mo Wilkerson both are emergency signing if the Packers have an injury at their positions only. I base that on nothing more than my gut feeling, but I don't believe the Packers cut a young player with potential just to carry a damaged goods veteran for depth only purposes.