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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by The GM on September 21, 2018, 01:42:58 PM »
The value of GBP franchise is priceless.

Well written, and all too true.  goodpost clap) clap) clap)  goodpost

Agree, you cant put a price on the history and ownership structure.  If you could sell to one owner it would change what makes the Packers special and unique.  That indeed is priceless.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by dannobanano on September 21, 2018, 01:18:29 PM »
$2.625B. Ranks #12 (They are Aaron Rodgers team, after all)  ;D

https://www.forbes.com/teams/green-bay-packers/
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by ricky on September 21, 2018, 01:11:06 PM »
The value of GBP franchise is priceless.

Well written, and all too true.  goodpost clap) clap) clap)  goodpost
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by The GM on September 21, 2018, 12:15:59 PM »
Forbes lists the Cowboys as the most valuable NFL team at 5 billon, the tenth ranked team, Eagles at 2.75 billion dollars. Packers not in the top ten. What is the value of our franchise?

Not sure of the exact value, but they need to do smart expansion of the brand.  The titletown project is a great example.  I think its the tip of the iceberg for what they will do in the future.  Someday Lambeau Field could be the small part of that whole titletown area. 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by marklawrence on September 21, 2018, 08:13:38 AM »
Between $2 and $2.5 billion. On $455 million in sales.

Tilray, by contrast, is "worth" $11 billion on $45 million in sales. Tilray is worth more than the Cowboys, Packers and Pats put together on 3% of the sales. And they lost $12 million last quarter.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by Fargofootball on September 21, 2018, 07:31:56 AM »
The value of GBP franchise is priceless.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Forbes top ten NFL teams value
« Last post by Premontre1969 on September 21, 2018, 02:53:07 AM »
Forbes lists the Cowboys as the most valuable NFL team at 5 billon, the tenth ranked team, Eagles at 2.75 billion dollars. Packers not in the top ten. What is the value of our franchise?
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On the Streets / Re: Mark's Movie Reviews
« Last post by marklawrence on September 20, 2018, 07:49:48 PM »
The House with a Clock in the Walls

Jack Black is Uncle Jon, a warlock. He becomes the guardian of Lewis when Lewis' parents die in a car crash. Cate Blanchett is his neighbor, a witch. Kyle McLaughlin is a (dead) evil warlock who planted a clock in the walls of the house - they must find the clock and stop it or "it would be bad."

It's a reasonably fun movie, but the magic is a cheat: there's no rhyme or reason to it, what ever you want to happen it seems you can just make it happen. Or not. I find this aspect of magical tales unsettling: since there are no rules, you can write yourself out of any corner with a spell. Which corner you likely got into due to a lack of a spell. This is the one part of Harry Potter I didn't like: you have to memorize the exact (latin) wording and wand work or the feather blows up in your face. Who figured it out first? And after blowing up how many feathers? And what does it mean when Dumbledore knows the "theory of magic" and can invent new spells? And only Voldemort and his followers can fly like smoke, but not a one of them can produce a petronus? Annoying.

I don't think this movie is worth $10, but if you have kids I suppose it's a good rental for an evening.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: The TIE
« Last post by ricky on September 20, 2018, 03:15:48 PM »
Didnt three of those attempts happen after the matthews penalty? At which point the packers were ahead? So the viking kicker would have been a non factor if they dont blow the Matthew call

No. Two of the FG attempts occurred after "The Call". And how about Crosby making hte winning FG in OT, but the last second TO nullified it? He then barely missed the second attempt. And lets not forget the TD called back on the phantom "hold". Also, at this point, both Aaron Rodgers (yes, the GB QB) and Joe Flacco (yes, the vastly overpaid QB) have come out against the new rule implementation. Rodgers didn't think the hit on him deserved a flag, and Flacco said the same. Both pushed the line that they are athletes and football players, and therefore are tough enough to take a hit now and then.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/aaron-rodgers-some-rules-trending-in-the-wrong-direction-348

Also, if the Matthews hit isn't called, and the interception stands, the game ends with Cousins having about 284 passing yards, not the over 400 he ended up with. That one play was HUGE.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: The TIE
« Last post by RT on September 20, 2018, 11:10:02 AM »
Personally I think Montgomery is a natural and gifted runner of the football, BUT I also think that he is not crazy about the game of football. Can't help but notice that he will take himself out of the game at every chance possible. This is not an attempt to attack him as a person, he seems to be a quality individual of high intelligence that has many things in life that are more important then football is all. This is the last year of his rookie contract and would not be surprised if it was his last year of playing. If it is the case, I hope he can go out with a Super Bowl ring.

Not sure I'm tracking here? 
1.  Is this based on politics or social media insights and agendas or stuff?  (I don't facebook or twitter, so I have no idea what you might know about Ty from twitter that I don't....)  I'm sincerely asking? 

2.  Or just based on what we see if we watch the games?  I know he's had a lot of injuries, so perhaps the perception is that "he will take himself out of the game at every chance possible". 

3.  If just based on games, I don't actually agree with that perception.  Yes, I know he's come out of games a lot.  But I'm not sure the implication follows that he's not really NFL-tough and doesn't play with hurts and dings the way guys who really love the game routinely do.  My reasoning:
a.  As a rookie, he got a really bad high-ankle injury.  The doctors eventually concluded that it definitely needed surgery.  But before the surgery, TM kept trying to tough it out and to practice and run on it.  I think he was trying to be too tough, not wimping out that season, perhaps to his detriment.  (Cartillege damage surgery.)
b.  Year 2, missed just one game, after abdominal/kidney injury, and internal-bleeding blood-in-urine.  Perhaps Lombardi's tough heroes would have never admitted or reported internal bleeding and blood-in-urine.  But I don't have any problem with a player reporting stuff like that.  After converting to RB, my amateur perspective is that he ran VERY hard, and did not have a habit of going down easily.  He may have run too straight for his own good, but I think he took a terrible pounding trying to pound out tough yards.  I didn't see any indication of "lacks commitment" or "avoids pounding" or anything. 
c.  Last year, he had a badly sprained wrist early, but toughed it out and played through for two months.  Again, he probably fought through it too long.  The wrist injury was so bad that he eventually had wrist surgery.  I suspect blocking massive NFL blitzers who are much bigger and heavier than you, and doing so with a sprained wrist, is very painful, and is not very great for wrist-healing.  But he played through it for a couple of months, and probably aggravated it worse in the process, before the surgery.  I'd not necessarily conclude that a guy "doesn't like football" because his wrist was so bad that it needed surgery; or when he played through that for two months. 
He also had broken ribs, plural, multiple breaks.... and then missed only one game as a result!  I've cracked a couple of ribs, and can't even imagine how a man could play NFL football only two games later.  That seems crazy idiotic tough to me....  Then his ribs got smashed up again

So it seems to me that he's had a terrible run of injuries; bad ankle needing surgery, bad wrist needing surgery, and broken ribs.  He's toughed it out and tried to do a lot of practicing and playing despite those injuries and through those injuries.  (Probably to the exacerbation of some of them.) 

Perhaps that's all just grueling determination and he hates every minute of it,, beats me.  But either way, I think I admire the man.  And if he can be average an extra couple of yards-per-carry compared to williams, and being a better check-down playmaker as well, I'm all for getting the guy some snaps, even after Jones returns. 

Last, I also think that injuries can come and go for runners.  *IF* his ankles are sound now, and *IF* his wrists are sound, and *if* he's not playing with broken ribs, he may be a much more effective pass-blocker and a more creative playmaker as both ball-carrier and receiver.  HOpe he has a very productive year, and makes himself very worthy of being offered a good solid contract.

I think you have blurred playing hurt with love of playing.

My comments are nothing more than gut feeling and as I earlier stated, not an attack on him in any way. Just make a mental note and watch how often he ask to come out of the game, it is something that he has done regularly since becoming a RB. Most RB's love contact, but each time Montgomery is involved in a hard tackle he is asking to come out of the game. If he has back to back runs, he is asking out of the game. In the Vikings game he run back to back at the end of the 1st quarter and ask to come out (and did).

Players like AP thrive on contact, can't get enough, want more and want to dishout more. Williams for GB is like that, as is most good RB's. It just doesn't seem to be Montgomery's cup of tea is all, which is perfectly fine. Still believe he is a gifted runner, just not in love with playing the game. 
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