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Draft Talk / Re: Tight Ends 2019
« Last post by RT on March 17, 2019, 02:23:30 PM »
I don't know if you are trying to convince me or yourself that they will not draft an OL, bmaafi. I am completely indifferent to if they do or don't, but the small sample of chances does not convince me of anything. After QB the LT is the most important position on the offense and maybe the team, so why would a team not draft a player at that position if they are the top player on their board? David Bakhtiari the last couple of years has had a difficult time staying healthy, wouldn't it be wise to grab a solid bookend for the OL if the scouting department believes that prospect has Pro Bowl potential. Maybe.   
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Draft Talk / Re: Montez Sweat has a Heart Condition?
« Last post by RT on March 17, 2019, 02:09:07 PM »
Last year DL from Michigan Maurice Hurst was widely consider a top 20 pick before the combine, at the combine he was sent home because of a heart condition. He ended up being drafted in the 5th round by the Raiders. This year the same thing happened to CJ Conrad, he is still trying to get clearance to workout and is now probably not a draftable player.

Their is a big difference between them and Sweat though, the Doctors at the combine did not stop him from working out which should tell everyone that it is probably not that concerning.   
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NFL Talk / Re: Beckham traded to Browns
« Last post by Gregg on March 17, 2019, 02:00:48 PM »
Well, you have to say that Dorsey had a lot of draft picks to work with. 

When you have two of the top four picks in one draft that is really good.  Then he had two very high picks in the second round.

To his credit, it looks like he hit on three of the four.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Allison Signed
« Last post by Gregg on March 17, 2019, 01:42:15 PM »
Good question Craig.

Allison is simply not a speed guy.  Period.

The word you were searching for was squatting.  When a defense knows you cannot challenge them deep, they play what is called a squatting defense.  This means they wait for the 7-8 yard pass and then simply destroy the receiver. 

We do not have anyone like the Niners Kittle on our offense.
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Draft Talk / Re: footballdad march mock
« Last post by Shinesman on March 17, 2019, 01:25:34 PM »
Not a bad draft at all
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Draft Talk / Re: Montez Sweat has a Heart Condition?
« Last post by Shinesman on March 17, 2019, 01:23:47 PM »
I just saw this. Wonder how it affects his draft stock. I think there was a DL who had a heart condition within the last few years who didnt drop that far. I wonder if the packers now moved him down the board for safety sake?
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Draft Talk / Montez Sweat has a Heart Condition?
« Last post by The GM on March 17, 2019, 01:06:41 PM »
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Draft Talk / Re: Tight Ends 2019
« Last post by bmaafi on March 17, 2019, 12:53:18 PM »
I don't see gute taking a OL at 12. First the oline class isn't that great. I don't see anyone worth the #12 pick. Also he is a Wolf/Thompson disciple and although he differs from thompson when it comes to free agency he seems similar to him when it comes to the draft. As far as my recollection Wolf only drafted three offensive linemen in the 2nd round or earlier(Micheals, Verba, and Clifton) Thompson just Spriggs I believe. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take one in the 2nd round though.

Your recollection has a few holes in it. In 1994 Wolf spent the 16th pick in the first round on Aaron Taylor. TT drafted Colledge  in the 2nd round in 2006 and Bulaga in the 1st in 2010. If the best player on their board is an OL at 12, the Packers will draft an OL at 12. It is more likely that OL come into play a little stronger with a trade back, but none of know for sure if the Packers have Dillard, Taylor or Williams rated that high. I don't think it is out of the question.

We both actually forgot Derek Sherrod(1st) and Mike Wahle(2nd round supp draft), but actually I think my point still stands. the packers generally shy away from offensive linemen in the early rounds and when they have they have been towards the end of the 1st rather than early. So at the earliest I don't see them taking one until 30, there just isn't an offensive linemen in this draft worth the #12 pick, and I don't see them trading down since there will be a really good player available at 12 but at say 16? probably not as good as a player that you can get at 12.

Over that timeframe, how many time have they chosen 12th or higher? Not much of a sample. Taylor was the 16th pick.

four times. Buckley in 92, Reynolds in 01, Hawk in 06, Raji in 09. Even if you go top 16 pick that adds Franks in 00, and Harrell in 07. So even when they have had high picks in the first outside of Taylor they never took and OL.
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Draft Talk / Re: Tight Ends 2019
« Last post by RT on March 17, 2019, 09:45:58 AM »
If the Packers go TE at 30, they could have a choice between Noah Fant and Irv Smith Jr. (Hock is gone) **IF** that scenario plays out who are you taking?

That is an easy one for me, Fant is worth the 30th overall pick and Smith is a late 2nd to 3rd round guy. IMHO
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Draft Talk / Re: Tight Ends 2019
« Last post by The GM on March 17, 2019, 09:39:31 AM »
 If the Packers go TE at 30, they could have a choice between Noah Fant and Irv Smith Jr. (Hock is gone) **IF** that scenario plays out who are you taking?
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