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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Chris Simms & Aaron Rodgers
« Last post by dannobanano on July 18, 2019, 01:53:38 PM »
Pretty sure that what Rodgers means by going "off script" is when the play and the pass pro break down and he gets flushed from the pocket and still has to make a play.


Edit: Watched it again and Rodgers said when he goes "off schedule". So "script" can/could be audibles. (Cue Rosanna Rosanna Danna...…….."Never mind!")
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Chris Simms & Aaron Rodgers
« Last post by The GM on July 18, 2019, 01:25:38 PM »
Seems like a lot of enthusiasm, by everybody associated with the Packers, and with Rodgers too. 
I don't know what he was doing before the interview started, maybe walking up a mountain and meeting Sims someplace; but thought it was interesting that he was all breathless. 

PFF guys don't care for him, it seems, but Billy Turner got mentioned favorably in this interview, too, by Rodgers.  Seems like the players believe he's going to be effective.  Also Rodgers really likes/respects Martinez. 

Seems like Rodgers appreciated what Shanahan has done with his offense, so seems optimistic.  There was a passing comment about defenses, not sure if he was thinking about having figured out the Packers offense, or whether he meant that they're figuring out the Shanahan offense; I think the former. 

Almost the first Q was about Mahomes, and Rodgers emphasized that what he liked about Mahomes was going "off script", Simms said something about that's your game, and Aaron agreed, something to the effect of "that's my game".  Seems pretty consistent that he expects to go "off script".  Again, I'm not assuming trouble there; every QB is calling audibles.  And the "script" is presumably going to have multiple built-in options, kind of scripted by the defensive responses.  So I'm not sure this is going to be an issue; but if you're looking for Rodgers to just run the play call, nothing in that interview suggests he's been convinced that doing so is the way to go.  :)

I like all the enthusiasm, though.  Think it's healthy for a guy and for the locker room.

Agree,  its a good thing.  A big key to potential success is Rodgers buying in.  Once you get that and a little success, this offense's confidence could spread like wildfire.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Chris Simms & Aaron Rodgers
« Last post by craig on July 18, 2019, 11:40:15 AM »
Seems like a lot of enthusiasm, by everybody associated with the Packers, and with Rodgers too. 
I don't know what he was doing before the interview started, maybe walking up a mountain and meeting Sims someplace; but thought it was interesting that he was all breathless. 

PFF guys don't care for him, it seems, but Billy Turner got mentioned favorably in this interview, too, by Rodgers.  Seems like the players believe he's going to be effective.  Also Rodgers really likes/respects Martinez. 

Seems like Rodgers appreciated what Shanahan has done with his offense, so seems optimistic.  There was a passing comment about defenses, not sure if he was thinking about having figured out the Packers offense, or whether he meant that they're figuring out the Shanahan offense; I think the former. 

Almost the first Q was about Mahomes, and Rodgers emphasized that what he liked about Mahomes was going "off script", Simms said something about that's your game, and Aaron agreed, something to the effect of "that's my game".  Seems pretty consistent that he expects to go "off script".  Again, I'm not assuming trouble there; every QB is calling audibles.  And the "script" is presumably going to have multiple built-in options, kind of scripted by the defensive responses.  So I'm not sure this is going to be an issue; but if you're looking for Rodgers to just run the play call, nothing in that interview suggests he's been convinced that doing so is the way to go.  :)

I like all the enthusiasm, though.  Think it's healthy for a guy and for the locker room. 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Position look: EDGE
« Last post by craig on July 18, 2019, 10:01:59 AM »
Agree fully with your point, RT.  No future on edge, remote-but-not-impossible future inside.  So no point in wasting reps on edge; the sooner he gets into the ILB room the better chance he has to learn how to do it and to show whether he's got any aptitude. 

They practice so very little as is, that if a guy is trying to transition to a new position, he needs all the chance he can get.  Do it right away so he gets as much opportunity as the modest number of hours of practice in camp can allow. 
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Position look: EDGE
« Last post by RT on July 18, 2019, 09:55:23 AM »
Everyone seems to list Randy Ramsey as an EDGE player, but I don't think they will make the same mistake they made with Vince Biegel and wait to move him to the inside in Pettine's defense. Ramsey is not build to play on the edge for Pettine.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/7/17/20697486/packers-2019-training-camp-roster-zadarius-and-preston-smith-anchor-new-olb-group

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/7/17/20698035/packers-2019-roster-predictions-kyler-fackrell-returns-to-backup-role-after-breakout-season

Do you see him as making the 53? That would be a real revelation! More power to him.

Being on the PS for a year and then making a run at a roster spot might be more realistic, but you never know?

After Martinez and Burks, you have Summers, Crawford, and Sheldon all making a push for a roster spot.


Add in Ramsey, and this will become a very intersting group to watch.

I think Ramsey is one of the longer longshots on the 90 with having a chance at making the 53. But like with Biegel, if they wait to long to switch him they will not get a very good evaluation of what he can do. I forget who said it on the coaching staff, but someone said that it was a mistake not moving Biegel inside in Pettine's defense from the start of training camp. They waited until the last week of training camp with Biegel and it was not enough time to evaluate him there.

Ramsey is not built to make it on the edge for Pettine, but could be an interesting blitzing prospect from the inside.   
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Chris Simms & Aaron Rodgers
« Last post by SET4YRS on July 18, 2019, 08:52:03 AM »
 Great link, thanks for that. Excited to see how audibles without changing formations work out with this new offense, should be lethal with Rodgers. Need to get off to a fast start, hopefully the defense can take the next step and help until the offense hits on all cylinders.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Position look: EDGE
« Last post by dannobanano on July 18, 2019, 08:52:01 AM »
Everyone seems to list Randy Ramsey as an EDGE player, but I don't think they will make the same mistake they made with Vince Biegel and wait to move him to the inside in Pettine's defense. Ramsey is not build to play on the edge for Pettine.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/7/17/20697486/packers-2019-training-camp-roster-zadarius-and-preston-smith-anchor-new-olb-group

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/7/17/20698035/packers-2019-roster-predictions-kyler-fackrell-returns-to-backup-role-after-breakout-season

Do you see him as making the 53? That would be a real revelation! More power to him.

Being on the PS for a year and then making a run at a roster spot might be more realistic, but you never know?

After Martinez and Burks, you have Summers, Crawford, and Sheldon all making a push for a roster spot.


Add in Ramsey, and this will become a very intersting group to watch.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Chris Simms & Aaron Rodgers
« Last post by The GM on July 18, 2019, 08:00:38 AM »
Souds great Danno,  and I certainly hope it turns out that way, but a few weeks back Rodgers was complaining about having freedom in this offense, and ability to have a voice.  Perhaps he's had a chance to see more of the offense and has bought in?
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Position look: EDGE
« Last post by RT on July 18, 2019, 06:45:45 AM »
Everyone seems to list Randy Ramsey as an EDGE player, but I don't think they will make the same mistake they made with Vince Biegel and wait to move him to the inside in Pettine's defense. Ramsey is not build to play on the edge for Pettine.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/7/17/20697486/packers-2019-training-camp-roster-zadarius-and-preston-smith-anchor-new-olb-group

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/7/17/20698035/packers-2019-roster-predictions-kyler-fackrell-returns-to-backup-role-after-breakout-season

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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Chris Simms & Aaron Rodgers
« Last post by dannobanano on July 18, 2019, 06:34:19 AM »
I don't think it will be "does Rodgers revert back to I gotta do this myself mode", and part of the reason that I make that claim is that there will be "trust" by Rodgers in, not just the new system, but in the HC calling a different style game than MM.

After all, this is a "NEW" offense that AR is still learning and not at all like the one that he's played in for the last 11+ years. Yes, there's going to be growing pains in establishing this offense, and I highly doubt AR goes off script if the offense takes a little time to find its legs. He will trust the new HC thought process on calling a game. Just listen to what he said in the interview with Simms about San Fran's offense (which GB's will strongly resembles).

Plus, MLF will need to "trust" what AR see's in the defense at the LOS, his experience in diagnosing what's in front of him, and having the option to change a play (likely to a scripted few choices set forth by MLF).

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/03/aaron-rodgers-on-audibles-in-new-offense-most-important-thing-is-trust/
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