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Draft Talk / Re: footballdad march mock
« Last post by The GM on March 17, 2019, 09:10:41 AM »
I like it.  I'll take that draft.
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NFL Talk / Re: Happy St Pat's Day
« Last post by dannobanano on March 17, 2019, 09:05:58 AM »
Dumb question:  in the spiderweb percentiles, who is that relative to?  NFL players?  (Combine scores for guys who actually made it?)  Or combine-invitees, past and present?  Or some other collection of draft-eligible college players?

I ask because the relative standards get lower as you go from NFL-guys to combine-guys to college-seniors.  I assume it must be lower than NFL guys, since every late-round pick the Packers have selected in recent years always seems to be 60-90th percentile at almost all of the metrics.

The spiderweb can be applied to all football players at all levels because each arm of the web is based on a score of 0 to 100.

However, for integrity purposes you would likely want to compare NFL and Draft Prospects to each other, College to College, and HS to HS.
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Draft Talk / Re: footballdad march mock
« Last post by dannobanano on March 17, 2019, 08:58:21 AM »
No complaints if it went down that way.

You do have an affinity for CB Brown!  ;D
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Mock Drafts / Re: Free Agency Mock
« Last post by dannobanano on March 17, 2019, 08:35:16 AM »
Nice draft db. One question though? Why Bush @ 30? Not knocking it because I think it would be a good choice, but don't you think they plan on starting Burks this year? Was hoping for Vander Esch last year but can't complain about Alexander. Insurance if Martinez leaves in 2020?

Burks struggled this last year, so Bush is insurance on two counts............(1) In case Burks is a bust, which I hope is not the case, and (2) In case Martinez wants more in FA than GB is willing to pay. Either way he improves the defense.

And, YES...............I was on the LVE bandwagon last year from early January right up until he got picked by DAL. He would have been a good one!
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Draft Talk / footballdad march mock
« Last post by footballdad on March 17, 2019, 07:44:47 AM »
If you hate it, don't worry. Have not had ONE single player selected since Raji and Matthews.

1) Devin White - ILB - LSU
1a) Irv Smith jr - TE - Alabama
2) Juan Thornhill - S - Virginia
3) Jeffrey Simmons - DT - Miss St
4) Max Sharping - OT - Northern Illinois
4a) Jordan Brown - CB - South Dakota State
5) Maxx Crosby - Edge - Eastern Michigan
6) Bryce Love - RB - Stanford
6a) Keke Kingsley - DT - Texas A&M
7) Alex Bars - G - Notre Dame
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Draft Talk / Re: Tight Ends 2019
« Last post by RT on March 17, 2019, 07:24:42 AM »
I don't see gute taking a OL at 12. First the oline class isn't that great. I don't see anyone worth the #12 pick. Also he is a Wolf/Thompson disciple and although he differs from thompson when it comes to free agency he seems similar to him when it comes to the draft. As far as my recollection Wolf only drafted three offensive linemen in the 2nd round or earlier(Micheals, Verba, and Clifton) Thompson just Spriggs I believe. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take one in the 2nd round though.

Your recollection has a few holes in it. In 1994 Wolf spent the 16th pick in the first round on Aaron Taylor. TT drafted Colledge  in the 2nd round in 2006 and Bulaga in the 1st in 2010. If the best player on their board is an OL at 12, the Packers will draft an OL at 12. It is more likely that OL come into play a little stronger with a trade back, but none of know for sure if the Packers have Dillard, Taylor or Williams rated that high. I don't think it is out of the question.

We both actually forgot Derek Sherrod(1st) and Mike Wahle(2nd round supp draft), but actually I think my point still stands. the packers generally shy away from offensive linemen in the early rounds and when they have they have been towards the end of the 1st rather than early. So at the earliest I don't see them taking one until 30, there just isn't an offensive linemen in this draft worth the #12 pick, and I don't see them trading down since there will be a really good player available at 12 but at say 16? probably not as good as a player that you can get at 12.

Over that timeframe, how many time have they chosen 12th or higher? Not much of a sample. Taylor was the 16th pick. 
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NFL Talk / Re: Happy St Pat's Day
« Last post by RT on March 17, 2019, 07:16:09 AM »
Thanks for sharing the PhysAttributes study 1265, that might be the best piece of information anyone has ever shared here.

As for my question, I was attempting to lead the witness.
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Mock Drafts / Re: Free Agency Mock
« Last post by footballdad on March 17, 2019, 06:35:32 AM »
Nice draft db. One question though? Why Bush @ 30? Not knocking it because I think it would be a good choice, but don't you think they plan on starting Burks this year? Was hoping for Vander Esch last year but can't complain about Alexander. Insurance if Martinez leaves in 2020?
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Draft Talk / Re: Tight Ends 2019
« Last post by bmaafi on March 17, 2019, 06:16:06 AM »
I don't see gute taking a OL at 12. First the oline class isn't that great. I don't see anyone worth the #12 pick. Also he is a Wolf/Thompson disciple and although he differs from thompson when it comes to free agency he seems similar to him when it comes to the draft. As far as my recollection Wolf only drafted three offensive linemen in the 2nd round or earlier(Micheals, Verba, and Clifton) Thompson just Spriggs I believe. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take one in the 2nd round though.

Your recollection has a few holes in it. In 1994 Wolf spent the 16th pick in the first round on Aaron Taylor. TT drafted Colledge  in the 2nd round in 2006 and Bulaga in the 1st in 2010. If the best player on their board is an OL at 12, the Packers will draft an OL at 12. It is more likely that OL come into play a little stronger with a trade back, but none of know for sure if the Packers have Dillard, Taylor or Williams rated that high. I don't think it is out of the question.

We both actually forgot Derek Sherrod(1st) and Mike Wahle(2nd round supp draft), but actually I think my point still stands. the packers generally shy away from offensive linemen in the early rounds and when they have they have been towards the end of the 1st rather than early. So at the earliest I don't see them taking one until 30, there just isn't an offensive linemen in this draft worth the #12 pick, and I don't see them trading down since there will be a really good player available at 12 but at say 16? probably not as good as a player that you can get at 12.
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NFL Talk / Re: Happy St Pat's Day
« Last post by craig on March 17, 2019, 05:25:54 AM »
Dumb question:  in the spiderweb percentiles, who is that relative to?  NFL players?  (Combine scores for guys who actually made it?)  Or combine-invitees, past and present?  Or some other collection of draft-eligible college players?

I ask because the relative standards get lower as you go from NFL-guys to combine-guys to college-seniors.  I assume it must be lower than NFL guys, since every late-round pick the Packers have selected in recent years always seems to be 60-90th percentile at almost all of the metrics.

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