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I wonder how much Gute and the draft scouts accept, welcome, solicit, or consider input from position coaches?  If Smith is drooling about Gray, did that drooling impact Gute's selection? 

I don't know how different organizations, including in different sports, do it. 

Pros and cons, probably.  A position coach probably has a good understanding of qualities that distinguish excellence, so you'd think getting his thoughts on the top 10-15 guys at his position of speciality would make a ton of sense. 

The flip, I suppose, is that a position coach certainly wants talent at his position, so you might think he might advocate especially for a guy in his group, maybe too hard and without being fully objective?  And certainly we're all familiar with guys who were good coaches but proved not-so-good as GM's and talent evaluators.  And who knows what scouting opportunities position coaches have or take? 

I imagine it could vary a lot, depending on the position coach.   
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: What now...
« Last post by dannobanano on May 23, 2019, 06:58:54 PM »
DUDE!!!

IBV is really...………….

Nostradamus!
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: What now...
« Last post by ricky on May 23, 2019, 03:51:00 PM »
Well , not that Gutey would ever listen to me but if he did , this is what I would tell him , first of all , MM has to go , next , at the Draft , with our first pick ( might be top 12 ) go get an edge rusher , with NO's pick , go get a safety , ang with our pick in the second Rd. , go get a Guard .

Just wanted to point out this post from November.

That is all.

So, Gutey does take advise from fan boards?  ;D
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: What now...
« Last post by RT on May 23, 2019, 03:23:56 PM »
Well , not that Gutey would ever listen to me but if he did , this is what I would tell him , first of all , MM has to go , next , at the Draft , with our first pick ( might be top 12 ) go get an edge rusher , with NO's pick , go get a safety , ang with our pick in the second Rd. , go get a Guard .

Just wanted to point out this post from November.

That is all.
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NFL Talk / Re: Vikings paying for Cousins deal
« Last post by RT on May 23, 2019, 03:06:59 PM »
Let me ask  you this. Does Rodgers Contract hurt the Packers?  If not, why not?   Sure Rodgers gave them a Super Bowl, 9 years ago when their defense was #2 in the league in scoring.  But what about the last 4 years?  Rodgers is 30-24-1.  Cousins is 32-30-1.   This is a what have you done for me lately league.  Let's look at the top 5 QB's in cap hit in 2019.  1. Jimmy Garrapolo.  2. Matthew Stafford.  3. Derek Carr. 4. Joe Flacco.  5. Andrew Luck.  Tell me, did their contracts hurt their teams?   Now lets move on to 2019.  1. Matthew Stafford.  2.Kirk Cousins.  3. Andrew Luck. 4. Tom Brady. 5. Aaron Rodgers.  Again, are other QB contracts hurting their teams? Why is it that only Cousins contract is getting mentioned about putting a team in "cap hell"?   Let's move to 2020. 1. Matt Ryan.  2. Ben Roethlisberger.   3. Aaron Rodgers.  4. Matthew Stafford.  5. Russel Wilson.  Again, only Cousins contract is an issue.  Down at #6.   So, in the 3 years of Kirk's outlandish contract, he makes the top 5, top paid QB's one year.  But only his contract is hurting the team.   Why is only his contract an issue? Read more: http://purplepainforums.com/thread/1922/why-cousins-contract-hurts-team#ixzz5omfzJxIm


They all hurt their teams and their chances to retain their own talent and sign outside talent to build a team with depth to survive a season that will without a doubt have many injuries. That is the conundrum every team faces, pay the QB and live with unproven depth or live in the hell of not having a proven QB. The only plan that teams seem to think is a winning one right now is to load up on non-QB talent and try to win with a QB on a rookie contract. The question is, would Minnesota been farther ahead to push all-in on a rookie QB and his contract and kept all the veteran non-QB talent in place around him? Paying the QB does not seem to be a strategy that produces as well as most people seem to think it does.     
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NFL Talk / Re: Vikings paying for Cousins deal
« Last post by raptorman on May 23, 2019, 02:06:44 PM »
Let me ask  you this. Does Rodgers Contract hurt the Packers?  If not, why not?   Sure Rodgers gave them a Super Bowl, 9 years ago when their defense was #2 in the league in scoring.  But what about the last 4 years?  Rodgers is 30-24-1.  Cousins is 32-30-1.   This is a what have you done for me lately league.  Let's look at the top 5 QB's in cap hit in 2019.  1. Jimmy Garrapolo.  2. Matthew Stafford.  3. Derek Carr. 4. Joe Flacco.  5. Andrew Luck.  Tell me, did their contracts hurt their teams?   Now lets move on to 2019.  1. Matthew Stafford.  2.Kirk Cousins.  3. Andrew Luck. 4. Tom Brady. 5. Aaron Rodgers.  Again, are other QB contracts hurting their teams? Why is it that only Cousins contract is getting mentioned about putting a team in "cap hell"?   Let's move to 2020. 1. Matt Ryan.  2. Ben Roethlisberger.   3. Aaron Rodgers.  4. Matthew Stafford.  5. Russel Wilson.  Again, only Cousins contract is an issue.  Down at #6.   So, in the 3 years of Kirk's outlandish contract, he makes the top 5, top paid QB's one year.  But only his contract is hurting the team.   Why is only his contract an issue? Read more: http://purplepainforums.com/thread/1922/why-cousins-contract-hurts-team#ixzz5omfzJxIm
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The answer to all this is the football field.  I prefer his performance be at the stadium, rather than the podium. As with all players. We'll see what happens.

WE All want to see it manifest on game day, but since it is the off-season and this is a football forum it seems likely there will be discussion threads like this.

Agree!!!
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The answer to all this is the football field.  I prefer his performance be at the stadium, rather than the podium. As with all players. We'll see what happens.

WE All want to see it manifest on game day, but since it is the off-season and this is a football forum it seems likely there will be discussion threads like this.
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What is wrong with Mike Smith? Doesn't he know that all the draft pundits criticized the pick and said the Packers made a big mistake? I mean what the heck does Mike Smith know? Who in the hell is Mike Smith?

I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself. Gary has the talent to be like Mack and maybe better. Why wouldn't you want to draft him? Big, talented players don't happen every year. He's one and I will be shocked if he doesn't make it.

Everyone knows the Packers are all idiots. The Packers should of traded their whole draft for Mack and paid him 26M a year so they could have been in cap hell for the next several years and had no draft capital. Yes, all idiots without a doubt.

Barney: "Hey Homer, you're late for English!"
Homer: "Pfft English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England. Come on, let's go smoke."
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The answer to all this is the football field.  I prefer his performance be at the stadium, rather than the podium. As with all players. We'll see what happens.
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