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Draft Talk / Re: Supplemental draft
« Last post by dannobanano on July 09, 2019, 01:49:23 PM »
I’ve got no problem with that line of thinking (player for player).

Would be nice if they could get another TE for him, but that’s just me wishing on a star.
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Draft Talk / Re: Supplemental draft
« Last post by RT on July 09, 2019, 01:13:02 PM »
The Packers seem very serious about possibly taking Thompson with a pick, if that happens I would expect a move of Josh Jones in the next day or two after that. It would be a fire sale of Jones, guessing a player for player deal for another teams underachiever. The next few days might be interesting to watch play out.
 
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Can confirm; the Green Bay Packers flew Jalen Thompson/S to their facility after yesterday's workout for medicals and interviews in preparation for tomorrow's supplemental draft.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Rodgers easier to sack? Maybe not
« Last post by ricky on July 09, 2019, 12:40:54 PM »
Just a little context to Lawson's hyperbole.

Every team go's into a game with a game plan for a blocking scheme and how much help will be given to each player. The Packers started the 2017 Bengals game with Bakhtiari out with injury and after 47 (70 total for the game) offensive plays Bulaga was knockout of the game and was replaced by McCray. Kyle Murphy started at LT and played all 70 snaps, but when he broke his foot during the game the Packers had no choice but to tough it out with broken footed Murphy and McCray at tackles. Murphy was placed on IR the following day with his broken foot and his season was over.

Yes Lawson had his career day with 2.5 sacks and now 2 years later runs his mouth about how easy sacking Rodgers is, this from a guy who had all of one sack all of last season.He capitalized on his moment of glory, now he can have a great rest of his life talking about that one big game he had as a pro.

The real story here should of been Murphy and the Packers gutting it out with a patchwork OL that day and pulling out a 27-24 win against the Bengals, but that sort of thing doesn't play as well to the lowest denominators like Lawson talking stupid crap about how easy it is to sack Rodgers.

This may be the single best takedown of an article/player without trash talking I've ever read on this site. Excellent work, sir!
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Rodgers easier to sack? Maybe not
« Last post by dannobanano on July 09, 2019, 09:32:01 AM »
Just a little context to Lawson's hyperbole.

Every team go's into a game with a game plan for a blocking scheme and how much help will be given to each player. The Packers started the 2017 Bengals game with Bakhtiari out with injury and after 47 (70 total for the game) offensive plays Bulaga was knockout of the game and was replaced by McCray. Kyle Murphy started at LT and played all 70 snaps, but when he broke his foot during the game the Packers had no choice but to tough it out with broken footed Murphy and McCray at tackles. Murphy was placed on IR the following day with his broken foot and his season was over.

Yes Lawson had his career day with 2.5 sacks and now 2 years later runs his mouth about how easy sacking Rodgers is, this from a guy who had all of one sack all of last season.He capitalized on his moment of glory, now he can have a great rest of his life talking about that one big game he had as a pro.

The real story here should of been Murphy and the Packers gutting it out with a patchwork OL that day and pulling out a 27-24 win against the Bengals, but that sort of thing doesn't play as well to the lowest denominators like Lawson talking stupid crap about how easy it is to sack Rodgers.

BRAVO!!

Thank you RT.

Lawson lives in clown world
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Rodgers easier to sack? Maybe not
« Last post by Hands on July 09, 2019, 08:33:52 AM »
Just a little context to Lawson's hyperbole.

Every team go's into a game with a game plan for a blocking scheme and how much help will be given to each player. The Packers started the 2017 Bengals game with Bakhtiari out with injury and after 47 (70 total for the game) offensive plays Bulaga was knockout of the game and was replaced by McCray. Kyle Murphy started at LT and played all 70 snaps, but when he broke his foot during the game the Packers had no choice but to tough it out with broken footed Murphy and McCray at tackles. Murphy was placed on IR the following day with his broken foot and his season was over.

Yes Lawson had his career day with 2.5 sacks and now 2 years later runs his mouth about how easy sacking Rodgers is, this from a guy who had all of one sack all of last season.He capitalized on his moment of glory, now he can have a great rest of his life talking about that one big game he had as a pro.

The real story here should of been Murphy and the Packers gutting it out with a patchwork OL that day and pulling out a 27-24 win against the Bengals, but that sort of thing doesn't play as well to the lowest denominators like Lawson talking stupid crap about how easy it is to sack Rodgers.
Well said RT....I remember Alex Karras having a field day against Jerry Kramer, because he was injured but kept playing. The next meeting, Alex hardly made any noise. Show me the player that sacked Rodgers multiple times in a game with the first string oline playing, like Mack, and ask him that question.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Rodgers easier to sack? Maybe not
« Last post by RT on July 09, 2019, 08:13:41 AM »
Just a little context to Lawson's hyperbole.

Every team go's into a game with a game plan for a blocking scheme and how much help will be given to each player. The Packers started the 2017 Bengals game with Bakhtiari out with injury and after 47 (70 total for the game) offensive plays Bulaga was knockout of the game and was replaced by McCray. Kyle Murphy started at LT and played all 70 snaps, but when he broke his foot during the game the Packers had no choice but to tough it out with broken footed Murphy and McCray at tackles. Murphy was placed on IR the following day with his broken foot and his season was over.

Yes Lawson had his career day with 2.5 sacks and now 2 years later runs his mouth about how easy sacking Rodgers is, this from a guy who had all of one sack all of last season.He capitalized on his moment of glory, now he can have a great rest of his life talking about that one big game he had as a pro.

The real story here should of been Murphy and the Packers gutting it out with a patchwork OL that day and pulling out a 27-24 win against the Bengals, but that sort of thing doesn't play as well to the lowest denominators like Lawson talking stupid crap about how easy it is to sack Rodgers.
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Re: Rodgers easier to sack? Maybe not
« Last post by craig on July 09, 2019, 07:13:32 AM »
"He was sacked 49 times in 597 attempts, meaning he threw about 12 passes for every time he was sacked. League-wide, there were about 14 passes thrown for each sack. So he typically isn’t a lot easier to sack for the rest of the NFL. Even if he is for Lawson."

Hard to know without the statistical distribution?  Often in NFL stats, there is very tight bunching towards the median.  So I don't know, maybe 12 vs 14 is one or two standard deviations on the high-sack side?  Beats me. 

Sacks is one thing; throwing-the-ball-out-of-bounds is another.  Clearly it doesn't have the negative yardage associated with a sack.  But it's another case of a play with zero yardage and zero chance of yardage or converting a first down once that decision is made. 

Yards and field position matter greatly.  But in terms of simplistic change-of-possession consideration, both punts and INT's change possession. 

Defenses love to get offenses to 3rd downs.  INT, fumble, sack, throw-out-of-bounds, dropped pass, inaccurate pass, short-of-mark completion..., there are just a lot of ways the defense can change possession once an offense gets to 3rd down.  I have no solution.  But I'm sure hoping the offense is going to somehow be uncommonly consistent and efficient on early downs, enough so that TD drives don't need to depend on sequencing multiple 3rd-down conversions. 

This is pretty disconnected from Ricky's link!  But to perhaps tie it back, "get rid of the ball sooner" has considerable merit.  But 3rd down is a special world, and a QB lives (and dies) in the 3rd-down world an awful lot.  If you can BOTH "get rid of the ball sooner" AND complete a pass beyond the mark, by all means Aaron please do so!  And as RT might say, if there are opportunities to open/opening receivers beyond the mark, by all means Aaron please study your play book well enough so that you're prepared to recognize those opportunities and to complete those passes, quickly.  But *IF* it's 3rd down and there is no first-down completion to be had, even by a well-studied hard-working QB, then by all means do NOT just "get rid of the ball"... if doing so is going to result in a punt.  Go ahead, Aaron, hold the ball, improvise, and feel free to try to extend the play in hopes that a first down becomes available.  *IF* you're able to convert that first down somehow, that's effectively a possession for us and not for them; invaluable!
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Green Bay Packers News Talk / Rodgers easier to sack? Maybe not
« Last post by ricky on July 08, 2019, 08:00:11 PM »
There has been a fair amount of discussion of Rodgers holding the ball too long. Well, one guy believes he's "easy to sack" and explains why. But later in the article, stats paint a different picture. Whatever. Get rid of the ball sooner, Aaron! Please?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/08/bengals-carl-lawson-says-aaron-rodgers-is-easy-to-sack/
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Draft Talk / Re: Supplemental draft
« Last post by ricky on July 08, 2019, 07:53:30 PM »
The somewhat intriguing question is whether any team will offer a higher draft pick (I've read a second rounder is possible- no link, because I read that a while ago). As always, the worth of the player is in the eye of the beholder.
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Draft Talk / Supplemental draft
« Last post by RT on July 08, 2019, 03:45:35 PM »
The NFL has their supplemental draft on Wednesday and the Packers just might be players this year.

The Packers have been sitting at 89 players on the roster since the release of Bibbs, could they have been keeping a spot open for Washington State safety Jalen Thompson?

Reported by Tony Pauline that twenty-six teams were on hand for Thompson’s workout including the director of scouting for the Houston Texans.  He measured 5103 and 186 pounds with hands at 8 3/8 inches and an arm length of 31 ¼ inches.

Thompson hit 33.5 inches in the vertical jump, 10-feet-4-inches in the broad jump and completed 11 reps on the bench press.  As I reported on twitter, his initial forty time came in around 4.47 seconds with his second clocking 4.56 seconds.

The other marks included 11.68 seconds in the 60-yard shuttle, 4.16 seconds in the short shuttle and 6.98 seconds in the three cone. The position drills were run primarily by the Atlanta Falcons, though other teams stepped in and requested specific drills.

Thompson is meeting with the Green Bay Packers this afternoon as the team has shown a lot of interest in the safety.  Other teams lining up for Thompson included the New England Patriots, Los Angeles Rams, Miami Dolphins, Indianapolis Colts and Arizona Cardinals.

Stamped as a fourth-round prospect by several scouts this spring, the feeling is Thompson will get drafted somewhere in the later rounds during Wednesday’s supplemental draft, which begins at 1PM.
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