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Offline cheech

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2017, 02:19:57 PM »
This is just wrong.  The 2-4-5 looks a hell of a lot more like a 4-3 defense than 3-4. 


Sorry for nitpicking your posts, but the 2-4-5 is real close to the standard 3-4-4.

In this alignment, one of the 3 down linemen is replaced with a deep safety- this is a standard Packer 2-4-5 alignment... At left OLB, Peppers is crouching for whatever reason, but he's lined up outside the TE- classic 3-4 OLB.

He's lined up even with the TE and more importantly his assignment is to take on that double team should they run to his side.  That requires bulk and strength.  Any 4-3 DE would line up in a similar position - just in a 3 point stance. 



The only difference between that defensive formation and a 4-3 nickel can be seen in the 2 point vs. 3 point stance. 

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2017, 04:02:55 PM »
"but OLBs and even elephants are asked to drop in coverage a fair amount while 4-3 DEs normally are not."


I can count the number of times this has happened in the last two years on one hand.  Capers just doesn't ask those guys to drop anymore.

Peppers did his first year in GB.

He had two pick-6's that year.

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2017, 09:06:04 PM »
 Barwin is to meet with the Bengals tomorrow.

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2017, 09:39:39 AM »
Jason Wilde‏Verified account @jasonjwilde 1m1 minute ago:
Connor Barwin is visiting the Bengals today, so I'm guessing he won't be joining the Packers.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2017/03/13/reports-connor-barwin-visiting-bengals/99120780/

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2017, 09:50:50 AM »
Jason Wilde‏Verified account @jasonjwilde 1m1 minute ago:
Connor Barwin is visiting the Bengals today, so I'm guessing he won't be joining the Packers.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2017/03/13/reports-connor-barwin-visiting-bengals/99120780/

Looks like it's possible neither House or Barwin end up in GB.

Too bad, because with losing Lang, they have more than enough money at this point.

Without factoring Kendricks numbers (because they still aren't available), the Packers still having $29.6M in cap space for 2017.

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2017, 09:53:55 AM »
Jason Wilde‏Verified account @jasonjwilde 1m1 minute ago:
Connor Barwin is visiting the Bengals today, so I'm guessing he won't be joining the Packers.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2017/03/13/reports-connor-barwin-visiting-bengals/99120780/

Looks like it's possible neither House or Barwin end up in GB.

Too bad, because with losing Lang, they have more than enough money at this point.

Without factoring Kendricks numbers (because they still aren't available), the Packers still having $29.6M in cap space for 2017.

Question -

Was he in GB - got an offer and walked?
Or -
Was he in GB - got an offer and walked to get others before deciding?

Do we know whats up?

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2017, 10:01:19 AM »
Or...was he even in GB?
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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2017, 10:12:46 AM »
Barwin has only “heard from” Green Bay, based upon a Google search.

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2017, 10:13:00 AM »
Or...was he even in GB?

With the signings of Bennett Friday, and Peppers three years ago, I often wonder how many FA's come in to GB for a visit and leave without a deal.  Those two signings came out of nowhere, and the Packers seem to demand absolute secrecy when it comes to free agent visits.

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2017, 10:36:04 AM »
Or...was he even in GB?

With the signings of Bennett Friday, and Peppers three years ago, I often wonder how many FA’s come in to GB for a visit and leave without a deal.  Those two signings came out of nowhere, and the Packers seem to demand absolute secrecy when it comes to free agent visits.

A good point Lou. I’ve wondered how the Packers, in these days of internet and instant social media, are able to broker these deals seemingly out of nowhere. Is it possible the Packers send their people to meet on the potential FA’s turf?

Maybe a question to pose to Spoff and WesHod...
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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2017, 03:14:55 PM »
the sports radio station in chicago claim he has signed with the bears but cant find anything concrete yet

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2017, 03:43:39 PM »
I'd love Barwin. I really wanted him in 2009 in the second since he was the smaller school (Cinci) workout stud, but we traded up for clay (a win). He is really the only half decent pass rusher on the market right now and wouldn't cost comp picks.

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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2017, 03:49:00 PM »
the sports radio station in chicago claim he has signed with the bears but cant find anything concrete yet

Hope this isn't the case.  We really need this guy with Peppers and Jones leaving and CM3 getting dropped back into coverage more.  Kyler Fackrell looked to be a long long way from being a defensive contributor. 
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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2017, 04:35:01 PM »
the sports radio station in chicago claim he has signed with the bears but cant find anything concrete yet

Bears signed kicker Connor Barth--

not Barwin.
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Re: Conner Barwin
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2017, 05:24:50 PM »
Bad move for them - checked the stats, seems Barth didn't have any sacks last year