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Offline OneTwoSixFive

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Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« on: November 18, 2017, 04:34:11 AM »
Do the Packers need to draft a RT this year ? This question has several things that impact that decision.

The first is how Bulaga recovers from his ACL. He is still only 28 years old. The flipside of that is that he has been banged up a fair bit. He may be fine for years, but the team cannot take that for granted.

They have a plan B,  a backup in the wings, Spriggs. He has not impressed much so far, but he shouldn't be counted out yet. He has the athleticism and size to play LT or RT, he just seems slow to pick things up. He might turn out fine, he might not, how he manages the rest of this season (if given a chance) will be important both for him and the team. If he does not pan out there is plan C.

Plan C is Murphy. He has also been injured (he is on IR now). He could be a functional starter. I don't think he will ever be an above average RT, but he might fill the spot adequately, until it is addressed with a better player, or he might progress to the point where he doesn't need to be replaced at all.

Guys like McCray are guys that shouldn't ever be starting at tackle, it's not his fault the Packers got so decimated he was put in. At only 6'3", his future is as G/C and probably his ceiling is a backup.

What does all this mean. Much hinges on Bulaga's recovery. If necessary, the Packers could survive a few games next year to let Bulaga fully recover, with Spriggs and Murphy filling in. My conclusion at this time, is that the Packers DO draft a RT, but not in the first two rounds of the draft. Someone taken in the 4th to 5th round (possibly even the third, if the value is there) as a quality developmental prospect, looks to be the most likely choice to me. Maybe they will take a taller version of the green, but super athletic guard Kofi Amichia, who the Packers drafted in round 6 this year.

Of course what happens at guard next year is a whole different question, but that is for another thread.

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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2017, 05:19:25 AM »
Have other more pressing needs specifically pass rusher.  Pack has a lot of picks this year.  Would expect a classic mid round pick or two on the OL.   Expect Bulaga to be back probably gets Pup and comes back in Oct.  Despite the injuries this year think OL is one of the stronger areas of the team. Young guys will also have another year of development. 

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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2017, 07:19:34 AM »
I am hoping that we see a healthy dose of Spriggs for the rest of the season- see if he can perform once he gets quality reps.  That experiment would go a long way toward answering the question about need to draft a tackle.

I think the experience that McCray is getting takes some of the heat off of the interior of the line as getting tackle experience should help make him a better guard, and he and Patrick look to be serviceable at the interior positions.

I think it will come down to what the BPA is among several positions when we pick.  If the right guy is there, one who is much better than the guys we have and better than the guys filling needs at other positions, I could see us pulling the trigger on a tackle with a high pick.
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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2017, 08:06:36 AM »
Late round or udfa for both OT and OG this next year.

McCray, Patrick, Pankey, Amichia ....... plenty of personnel to continue to develop at interior positions.

At OT, Spriggs and Murphy make it unnecessary to use anything higher than a day 3 pick on another OT.

Linsley gets an extension and Amichia may get the chance to be the primary backup.

Having 7 picks on day three could mean lots of picks to add depth at positions, or could be used as ammo to move up in the draft to get a better player at a “need” position

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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2017, 09:41:39 AM »
Pass rusher or two and another CB are priorities in my opinion. I also think they need to look for a WR early in draft. Do not see us paying 3 WR's next year, although Adams is a must. Not to mention TE, but this years crop doens't seem to have a lot of 1-2 round talent at TE.

These things and a new DC and we're in talks for a run next year.
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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2017, 01:22:24 PM »
Lets not forget that TT has had a very good track record drafting OL in the middle rounds. So, go for those pass rushers early, even a CB or two, then turn to the OL. As far as TE, lets see what Kendricks can bring to the table. And remember, with AR back, every receiver is suddenly better. Usually I'm one of those "it's too early" guys, but without AR, why not discuss upgrades/competition?

And, on a side note, good to have you back, golfman.
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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2017, 01:24:16 PM »
Pass rusher or two and another CB are priorities in my opinion. I also think they need to look for a WR early in draft. Do not see us paying 3 WR's next year, although Adams is a must. Not to mention TE, but this years crop doens't seem to have a lot of 1-2 round talent at TE.

These things and a new DC and we're in talks for a run next year.


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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2017, 03:02:12 PM »
Ben Fennell: I hope Kansas senior TE Ben Johnson gets a senior bowl or all-star game invite... 6’5 245. Super athletic and tough...
Played both ways in HS, also stand out basketball/track star. I hope he gets a look...

A very early scouting report. But apparently the guy is a reliable receiver who can block. Is he fast enough to be a downfield threat? TBD.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=133150&draftyear=2018&genpos=TE
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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2017, 03:46:41 PM »
I'm looking at another guy of similar size (6'5", 250) atm, but he isn't a TE.

Tremaine Edmunds, OLB of Virginia Tech. His forte is coverage but he has plenty to work with to make an exciting pass rusher and he is (as you might imagine) both athletic and fast. Look for no.49 (or 25 for some reason, when he plays Georgia Tech). He could be anything from a first rounder to a mid second. Not a finished product by any means, but he could be special.

Sorry to get off-topic, back to business.
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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2017, 05:21:22 PM »
Lets not forget that TT has had a very good track record drafting OL in the middle rounds. So, go for those pass rushers early, even a CB or two, then turn to the OL. As far as TE, lets see what Kendricks can bring to the table. And remember, with AR back, every receiver is suddenly better. Usually I'm one of those "it's too early" guys, but without AR, why not discuss upgrades/competition?

And, on a side note, good to have you back, golfman.

Ricky thanks, but going to stay away from the Packer section. I've spoken my peace and there isn't much to talk about. Still won't watch them until Capers is gone. Hoping for the best but not expecting a different result defensively. Hundley took a nice step last week hope he builds on it.
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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2017, 12:07:08 PM »
Still believe you have to give Spriggs a shot. He could develop into a viable starter. Everyone wants to drop him ASAP, but he's still young and has upside. I don't see them drafting one in the first 3 rounds unless one they really like falls to them, which is doubtful. Murphy is also capable of becoming a starter.

4th and 5th rounds are where they'll go after lineman, I think.

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Re: Do the Pack draft a RT this year, if so, where ?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2017, 01:18:52 PM »
I don't think we need to draft a RT.

I want to bring BB back again.  And we have Murphy behind him, and also McRay.  I like the way both of them played this year.

IMO, I think we need more help inside than outside.  And I do not want to give up on Spriggs too fast.  He is really a LT not a RT.  But he needs another offseason in the weight room and I think he can develop the pure strength he needs.  Sometimes it takes awhile for OL, e.g. Rivera, Wahle, Flanagan.