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« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2017, 07:17:38 PM »
Good for Lance to be pro active in his donation.


Maybe he should also consider on their days off going out in the stadiums parking lots, or rent a venue of their choosing and hold rallies, in their street clothes and link arms, kneel or whatever else they want to protest or...start some charities that would benefit their concerns...how about visiting some of the oppressed areas in our Country they are championing for and do something good for the people there.


I'm sure the players can come up with some more examples where they can help.


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« Reply #92 on: October 12, 2017, 07:23:27 PM »
Lost in the uproar over the NFL sideline protests against police brutality are newly released statistics showing that the threat to black men is skyrocketing — not from trigger-happy or racist cops, but from crime.


Players need to better informed and take their protests out of the stadiums taking their disrespecting of OUR Country with them.


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« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2017, 07:11:18 AM »
In an unusual and public call to arms, a Los Angeles Chargers lineman said he would post a letter online Friday morning urging the league’s 1,700 players to take a unified stand against pressure from N.F.L. team owners to curb demonstrations during the national anthem before games.

“We can either wait until we receive our respective marching orders, speak up individually, or find a way to collaborate, and exercise our agency as the lifeblood of the league.....I’m about shifting the narrative. We can’t be distracted by what he (Trump) is trying to do,” Okung said of the president. “We’re honing our voice. We’re not unified against Trump, we’re unified against social injustice.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/sports/russell-okung-nfl-anthem-protests-trump.html?mtrref=t.co

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« Reply #94 on: October 13, 2017, 09:31:14 AM »

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"According to Deadline Hollywood, this week’s Thursday night game between the Philadelphia Eagles and Carolina Panthers continued the league’s ratings disaster, down at least 5% from just a week ago and down nearly 10% from this time last season.


More troubling for the NFL was CBS decision to not-air the performance of the ‘Star-Spangled Banner’ during the pre-game ceremonies, instead cutting to the game as players rushed the field."


This must be the NFL and Network TV's answer on how to handle the player protests....how sad!!
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« Reply #95 on: October 13, 2017, 10:26:27 AM »

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"According to Deadline Hollywood, this week’s Thursday night game between the Philadelphia Eagles and Carolina Panthers continued the league’s ratings disaster, down at least 5% from just a week ago and down nearly 10% from this time last season.


More troubling for the NFL was CBS decision to not-air the performance of the ‘Star-Spangled Banner’ during the pre-game ceremonies, instead cutting to the game as players rushed the field."


This must be the NFL and Network TV's answer on how to handle the player protests....how sad!!

Fine. As I've said previously, if you're so troubled by the 10 players who were silent for a 2minute period once a week....if those 2minutes were so problematic for you that enjoyment of the game was impossible - skip those 2minutes.

Well, that was too easy a resolution and now we've got Trump marshaling up the indignant RW and conflating it beyond its purpose.
Oh well. Its your "reality" now. You'll have to live with it. Or not.

I expect the league and the NFLPA will come to some accord thats mutually beneficial. I see that as a good thing. If you dont....if thats not good enough for you, either apply the 2minute boycott - or dont.

Dont watch. If it pains you - dont watch.

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« Reply #96 on: October 13, 2017, 10:55:14 AM »
You like to blame Trump...probably on everything he does...it's obvious.


Again this isn't about Trump...all he has done is call out the disrespecting being done by the players and looks like OK with the NFL. The NFL doesn't and didn't have the backbone to nip this in the bud last year when Kaep started this.


I haven't seen one of these grandstanders take a knee or protest on their own time. I haven't seen much positive activity from any of them...have you!!!


Their protest is no longer bringing awareness to what they feel is important, it is just making them look like spoiled millionaires that want their own way, and they seem to want law enforcement to leave their 'brothers' alone.


You talk about 2 minutes.... would it be so hard for the players/teams to stand hand over heart, helmet in other hand, facing the flag showing respect while the anthem is played?


Don't watch? Please!! What pains me is that the disrespect they and their supporters are showing by protesting in uniform, in stadiums on game days in front of our flag, anthem and military/vets.


Want to protest fine...take it out of your workplace as it is NOT the place!!
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« Reply #97 on: October 13, 2017, 11:13:17 AM »
You like to blame Trump...probably on everything he does...it's obvious.


Again this isn't about Trump...all he has done is call out the disrespecting being done by the players and looks like OK with the NFL. The NFL doesn't and didn't have the backbone to nip this in the bud last year when Kaep started this.


I haven't seen one of these grandstanders take a knee or protest on their own time. I haven't seen much positive activity from any of them...have you!!!


Their protest is no longer bringing awareness to what they feel is important, it is just making them look like spoiled millionaires that want their own way, and they seem to want law enforcement to leave their 'brothers' alone.


You talk about 2 minutes.... would it be so hard for the players/teams to stand hand over heart, helmet in other hand, facing the flag showing respect while the anthem is played?


Don't watch? Please!! What pains me is that the disrespect they and their supporters are showing by protesting in uniform, in stadiums on game days in front of our flag, anthem and military/vets.

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Want to protest fine...take it out of your workplace as it is NOT the place!!

Blaming Trump for this is like blaming the guy who called the fire dept.  Just SMH!!!!!

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« Reply #98 on: October 13, 2017, 11:22:38 AM »
Want to protest fine...take it out of your workplace as it is NOT the place!!

You're not their employer. You're not affiliated with the league in any way. You're nothing but a customer. So either buy it - or dont.
That has *always* been *OUR* relationship to the GBPs or any sports team. Customers. This "outrage" is both out of place and overblown to the size of the protest - that is - until Donald decided to jerk your chain. You're no more patriotic than the next guy - past military involvement or not. You own no special brand of patriotism - than me - the other posters on this board - or the players standing (or kneeling) on NFL sidelines. Tell yourself you do - thats fine - but be certain to douse that fire with reality before you're done.

As for my personal views on Donald - you're right. I have no respect for him whatsoever. The office of the Presidency, our form and structure of government? Yes - indeed I do believe in it - strongly - but not this guy. He's nothing but a lying, draft dodging, corrupt money launder with racist tendencies who holds no "insight" (or knowledge) of our way of government greater then how to "work it" to enrich his family.

It's entirely non-partisan with me. I've no problem with Republicans - its their programs I may disagree with - but this guy's an imposter who's resume for this job was (and remains) woefully lacking. He's a nitwit of the first degree. But thats a separate subject and not for discussion here or with you.

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« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2017, 11:58:28 AM »
I voiced my opinions and personally get blasted for them...typical.


You are right though I am not their employer and the players are not either...the nfl IS but not acting like an employer.


Nothing in the rest of your rant is worth replying to.



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« Reply #100 on: October 13, 2017, 12:17:14 PM »
I voiced my opinions and personally get blasted for them...typical.


You are right though I am not their employer and the players are not either...the nfl IS but not acting like an employer.


Nothing in the rest of your rant is worth replying to.

Dont feel sorry for yourself as it clouds judgement. Pre-Donald less than a dozen players were voicing their opinions and you took it upon yourself to question their patriotism and declare "Not in my house" foolishness. Take it outside. Well - regardless of how long you've been a fan - its not your house.  Never was. Never will be. Not living in WI or Green Bay, I've not had the pleasure of romping around the old stadium and such - those memories I do not possess - but I've been a "fan" of one team in my entire life - the GBPs.

So what? That doesnt afford me any special place or position to castigate these players or challenge their integrity or patriotism. Not in the least.

Its a labor matter and (as stated) I suspect the league and players will reach some accord. I can only hope you'll find peace with that. If not - oh well. Stay angry.   


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« Reply #101 on: October 13, 2017, 12:29:13 PM »
I'll repeat what I posted elsewhere, as it is to the point. Remove the National Anthem from every game.

It isn't an International event (USA vs another country), and if you can think of  better way to defuse a very awkward situation, I'd like to hear it. I don't know when the National Anthem started preceding every game, but it hasn't always been played first.
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« Reply #102 on: October 13, 2017, 01:09:34 PM »
I'll repeat what I posted elsewhere, as it is to the point. Remove the National Anthem from every game.

It isn't an International event (USA vs another country), and if you can think of  better way to defuse a very awkward situation, I'd like to hear it. I don't know when the National Anthem started preceding every game, but it hasn't always been played first.

Good thinking - but apparently not acceptable - as indicated by the outrage that CBS apparently didnt show the NA before last nights game.

"More troubling for the NFL was CBS decision to not-air the performance of the ‘Star-Spangled Banner’ during the pre-game ceremonies, instead cutting to the game as players rushed the field"

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Re: Not watching game.
« Reply #103 on: October 13, 2017, 01:19:49 PM »
Good for Lance to be pro active in his donation.


Maybe he should also consider on their days off going out in the stadiums parking lots, or rent a venue of their choosing and hold rallies, in their street clothes and link arms, kneel or whatever else they want to protest or...start some charities that would benefit their concerns...how about visiting some of the oppressed areas in our Country they are championing for and do something good for the people there.


I'm sure the players can come up with some more examples where they can help.


They are already doing this!! YOU are not paying attention and YOU will not pay attention until they bring the attention to you. 

The notion that the only action/statement/contribution that these players make is strictly limited to protesting a cause during the National Anthem is complete BS!  The notion that anything will change if they would just protest somewhere they won't be seen or heard?   Ummmm...so sad. (apparently it's mandatory for statements to end this way now)

Many/most players are actively involved in various causes and charities.  Are actively involved in attending local schools, Women's shelters, children's hospitals, etc.  They have been at various rallies around the country to lend support to these causes, they have been active on twitter to denounce these causes.  I have volunteered at shelters and watched players serving next to me, I have watched players reading to my children at school and listened to them speak on the importance of unity, equality and family.   YOU are not paying attention and YOU are not listening
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« Reply #104 on: October 13, 2017, 01:40:29 PM »
I'll repeat what I posted elsewhere, as it is to the point. Remove the National Anthem from every game.

It isn't an International event (USA vs another country), and if you can think of  better way to defuse a very awkward situation, I'd like to hear it. I don't know when the National Anthem started preceding every game, but it hasn't always been played first.

Great way to kill the NFL if thats the plan.  Getting rid of the anthem will set off a firestorm in the country in which the NFL might not recover.   People are pissed at the kneeling, getting rid of the anthem will sink the NFL as we know it.  People will turn that crap right off.     The country is sick of  protests,  police brutality myths (not all) that start riots before the facts come out.  half the players dont even know what they are protesting, cant define it, or even know what they want.   

The best way is to keep all the players in the lockerroom until after the anthem, have the teams work on some pointed community outreach issues off the field.    We'll get more clarity after the owners meeting coming up next week on what they want to do..
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