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Offline PackerJoe

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2019, 11:10:57 AM »
I guess I can let the cat out of the bag.  I know Myles personally, I'm 6"3" 220lbs. and he is at least three inches taller than I am and a tat big more weightier and alot more muscular.

I tried attaching a picture, don't think he is 6'2" as you stated and he is closer to 250 at this time.

Here's the ND roster posts:

Miles Boykin | 81
WR | SR |  Notre Dame
Ht: 6040 | Wt: 225 | Upd: 12/29/2018
Hometown: Tinley Park, IL | High School: Providence Catholic

HONORS AND AWARDS

Citrus Bowl MVP (2018)
SENIOR SEASON (2018)

Led team during the regular season with 803 receiving yards on 54 catches and eight TDs
Had at least one TD catch in six straight games (STAN, VT, PITT, NAVY, NW, FSU), the longest such streak by an Irish WR since Will Fuller in 2014
Eclipsed 100 receiving yards in three games and had two games with multiple TD catches
Snared 11 receptions for 144 yards and a score against Stanford
Made a pair of TD catches among eight receptions for 117 yards at No. 24 Virginia Tech
Had four catches and two TD grabs against Navy

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2019, 01:25:15 PM »
Maybe we should draft Boykin as a TE then!?

Packers already have one of those tall/heavy WR's on the roster.

Allen Lazard/WR/Iowa State
6-5/227
(2017) Senior year
71 receptions
941 yds
10 TD's

https://www.packers.com/team/players-roster/allen-lazard/

BTW.........Boykin is listed as 6-4/228

http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/player/513/1072176/index.html

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2019, 07:16:08 AM »
Lazard and Boykins are similar receivers. They have speed but usually considered possession receivers. If PackerJoe is correct...Boykin could be a TE candidate, but not Lazard. Lazard doesn't have the weight/strength to become one.
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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2019, 08:31:41 AM »
Let’s see what Boykins measures (Ht/Wt) at the Combine.

ESPN lists him at 6-4/228.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3932423/miles-boykin

That’s an inch shorter than Lazard and 1 lb heavier.

On average, players tend to measure shorter and lighter when they show up at the Combine, so Packkaw’s claims will be interesting to follow.

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2019, 08:20:13 AM »
I get all my H/W/40-times from nfldraftscout.com. They've been fairly reliable compared to many sources that tend to inflate measurables. Granted, college athletes are still growing and can put on/lose lbs. at the drop of a hat-- but if Miles Boykin is 6' 6"-- I'll eat said hat.

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2019, 08:51:15 AM »
I get all my H/W/40-times from nfldraftscout.com. They've been fairly reliable compared to many sources that tend to inflate measurables. Granted, college athletes are still growing and can put on/lose lbs. at the drop of a hat-- but if Miles Boykin is 6' 6"-- I'll eat said hat.

The combine is right around the corner and their will be no fudging of numbers after that. Every year most teams have some new large WR that is going to set the world on fire, he is going to be just unstoppable. But each year they come and go only to be replaced by the next unstoppable oversized WR. The 3-cone drill is the place that will expose them as having a chance to be the real deal or if he is a fraud. What is Miles Boykin? I have no idea at this moment, but after the combine most should have a very good idea.   

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2019, 08:15:49 AM »
I get all my H/W/40-times from nfldraftscout.com. They've been fairly reliable compared to many sources that tend to inflate measurables. Granted, college athletes are still growing and can put on/lose lbs. at the drop of a hat-- but if Miles Boykin is 6' 6"-- I'll eat said hat.

The combine is right around the corner and their will be no fudging of numbers after that. Every year most teams have some new large WR that is going to set the world on fire, he is going to be just unstoppable. But each year they come and go only to be replaced by the next unstoppable oversized WR. The 3-cone drill is the place that will expose them as having a chance to be the real deal or if he is a fraud. What is Miles Boykin? I have no idea at this moment, but after the combine most should have a very good idea.

Very good point. Consider the amount of WRs over 6'4 or even 6'5 and look at how many of them are successful the list is very small. Mike Evans, that's really about it. Most big WRs are in the 6'3 range. I think people get their head stuck in the clouds over big WRs, pretending they have a reasonable shot at being the next Calvin Johnson. The larger bodied receivers often end up being solid contributors instead of number 1 options. I feel like they already have that with MVS and St. Brown, and to a larger extent the potential to be a playmaker like Adams rests with Moore. We'll see but I really like what they did to address the future of WR last year.

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2019, 08:32:26 AM »
I get all my H/W/40-times from nfldraftscout.com. They've been fairly reliable compared to many sources that tend to inflate measurables. Granted, college athletes are still growing and can put on/lose lbs. at the drop of a hat-- but if Miles Boykin is 6' 6"-- I'll eat said hat.

The combine is right around the corner and their will be no fudging of numbers after that. Every year most teams have some new large WR that is going to set the world on fire, he is going to be just unstoppable. But each year they come and go only to be replaced by the next unstoppable oversized WR. The 3-cone drill is the place that will expose them as having a chance to be the real deal or if he is a fraud. What is Miles Boykin? I have no idea at this moment, but after the combine most should have a very good idea.

Very good point. Consider the amount of WRs over 6'4 or even 6'5 and look at how many of them are successful the list is very small. Mike Evans, that's really about it. Most big WRs are in the 6'3 range. I think people get their head stuck in the clouds over big WRs, pretending they have a reasonable shot at being the next Calvin Johnson. The larger bodied receivers often end up being solid contributors instead of number 1 options. I feel like they already have that with MVS and St. Brown, and to a larger extent the potential to be a playmaker like Adams rests with Moore. We'll see but I really like what they did to address the future of WR last year.

On point claymaker. The Packers paid some dues last year with the rookie WR's and should benefit from it in the next few years. The needle is pointing up at the WR position.

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2019, 10:16:21 AM »
I guess I can let the cat out of the bag.  I know Myles personally, I'm 6"3" 220lbs. and he is at least three inches taller than I am and a tat big more weightier and alot more muscular.

I tried attaching a picture, don't think he is 6'2" as you stated and he is closer to 250 at this time.

Here's the ND roster posts:

Miles Boykin | 81
WR | SR |  Notre Dame
Ht: 6040 | Wt: 225 | Upd: 12/29/2018
Hometown: Tinley Park, IL | High School: Providence Catholic

HONORS AND AWARDS

Citrus Bowl MVP (2018)
SENIOR SEASON (2018)

Led team during the regular season with 803 receiving yards on 54 catches and eight TDs
Had at least one TD catch in six straight games (STAN, VT, PITT, NAVY, NW, FSU), the longest such streak by an Irish WR since Will Fuller in 2014
Eclipsed 100 receiving yards in three games and had two games with multiple TD catches
Snared 11 receptions for 144 yards and a score against Stanford
Made a pair of TD catches among eight receptions for 117 yards at No. 24 Virginia Tech
Had four catches and two TD grabs against Navy

Not going to argue with this one.

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#NFLCombine key measurements thread…

146. #NotreDame WR Miles Boykin
Height: 6-3 6/8
Weight: 220
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 33 4/8
Wingspan: 81 3/8

So you say he is atleast 3 inches taller than you. And he is closer to 250? Are you 5'11" or 6'0"? And what other measurements have you been fudging about through the years? Wait, I don't want to know that. 

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2019, 09:54:50 AM »
Danno, So after the combine do you still want Lazard on our roster?

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Re: 2019 Draft and beyond
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2019, 04:19:59 PM »
Danno, So after the combine do you still want Lazard on our roster?

Glad that you are friends with him. Kind of fun when you can make a claim like that.

Answer: No. I'll keep Lazard for now, thanks.

Lazard represents a different body type than Boykin, at an inch taller and several pounds heavier. IMO, Lazard would be used in a different capacity than Boykin, should Lazard even make the roster (hint: Lazard is a long shot, but you never know)

While Boykin had a fine Combine, he's basically the same size/speed as ESB, and a 14 lb bigger/slightly slower WR than MVS. Do we need more of same while the slot WR is vacant?

Not sure they will want to add another "same kind" of WR to the mix, but then...............I don't know anything that they may do in the draft this year. Does anyone?

Maybe Gute drafts Boykin in the 4th/5th and he's lights out. I'd be shocked, but never say never, I guess.