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Offline dannobanano

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BS article
« on: June 24, 2019, 12:27:35 PM »
I read this piece and consider this blogger a hack.

https://packerstalk.com/2019/06/24/not-bringing-in-punting-competition-spells-trouble-for-packers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PackersTalk+%28PackersTalk.com%29

[Fostering a sense of competition can only be helpful for professional sports, especially in a sport like the NFL that focuses on winning personal battles. In a position group that the team needs to see much better results from, there were no bodies brought into camp to compete with incumbent punter J.K. Scott.
No competition leaves no room for imagination as to who will win the starting job for the regular season, which also can make players (like Scott) feel like since their spot is all wrapped up, that their performance will not need to be improved. Having been thrown into a camp battle as soon as he arrived in Green Bay, Scott knows first-hand how important having someone breathing down your back can be in helping get the best, most polished product to shine.
Drafted in the fifth round out of Alabama in Brian Gutekunst’s first draft as the general manager, Scott was unable to replicate the stats that Justin Vogel, a Pro Bowl alternate in 2017, produced in his rookie and record-breaking season. A question mark to most when Vogel was released, the bar for Scott to reach was always very high to begin with, especially with the precedent set before him.]

Either intentionally, or as a result of shoddy journalism research, this writer forgets that bringing in kicking competition for Justin Vogel, last year, caused Vogel to get PO'd and asked for the Packers to release him from his contract.

It wasn't the Packers who initiated the request. It was Vogel.

So...………...should Gute have brought in another punter, again, this year, only to risk alienating JK Scott just as Vogel was alienated last year?

I can read the headlibnes now...………….."Packers Can't Figure Out The Punter Position! Employing Third Punter In Three Years!"

Pleeease…………...gimme a break!

Salacious click bait, and nothing else.

Offline OneTwoSixFive

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Re: BS article
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 01:33:25 PM »
I don't mind the idea of competition. I also don't mind the Packers having confidence in who they have, so I'm easy either way.

I don't know if confidence in the punter is merited, but I'm not at OTAs.
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Re: BS article
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 06:28:49 PM »
So, Vogel got PO'ed because competition brought in, and he pouted and demanded to be released. Apparently everyone is OK with that attitude. But not for Josh Jones, who asked to be traded when competition was brought in via FA and a first round pick. Maybe I'm totally misreading the post by danno. If so, please correct me.
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Re: BS article
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2019, 04:38:49 AM »
So, Vogel got PO'ed because competition brought in, and he pouted and demanded to be released. Apparently everyone is OK with that attitude. But not for Josh Jones, who asked to be traded when competition was brought in via FA and a first round pick. Maybe I'm totally misreading the post by danno. If so, please correct me.

WE are talking about grown men and their professions.
This isn't about pouting and it isn't about what fans are or are not okay with. The comparison between the two is a apples to bananas or maybe apples to rocks.

Vogal, an undrafted FA who is unemployed, had no value to the Packers or any other NFL team. The Packers fully intended to replace him. So much so, that they took the unusual step of drafting a punter. When he asked for his release the Packers happily accommodated.

Jones, a 2nd round draft pick, who the Packers have a large financial investment in, is a valued special teams ace and contributing member to the defense's multiple packages under Capers and Pettine. Jones is assessed  as having value to the team and in the NFL Jones will assuredly be employed in the NFL despite not participating in VOLUNTARY off-season workouts.

ricky, you're a smart guy. This is not rocket science, rather simple football assessment and market value. Perhaps you are letting your emotional reaction cloud your usual sound thinking process.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2019, 04:39:49 AM by B »
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