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ricky:
Twenty more days before the pads go and and things get more interesting. Here is a preview by one writer. Any additions? Punter will have to wait for the exhibition season, I suppose.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/five-things-to-watch-once-training-camp-starts-225

Hands:
I think the coordinators will be putting their stamps on this year's team in a big way!

ricky:

--- Quote from: Hands on July 06, 2018, 08:56:06 PM ---I think the coordinators will be putting their stamps on this year's team in a big way!

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How so? Pettine has been pretty well discussed, but what about Philbin? How will he change the offense? And how much input will MM have on the final play calling?

OneTwoSixFive:

--- Quote from: ricky on July 07, 2018, 06:11:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hands on July 06, 2018, 08:56:06 PM ---I think the coordinators will be putting their stamps on this year's team in a big way!

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How so? Pettine has been pretty well discussed, but what about Philbin? How will he change the offense? And how much input will MM have on the final play calling?
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Almost as important as the new players, is the totally re-done playbook, the new OC, the new DC, but there is plenty besides that, to affect the whole coaching unit. On offense we have Hostler as the new pass game coordinator, Raih who has moved from offensive perimeter to WRs coach and new QB coach Frank Cignetti Jr. On defense Patrick Graham is now the ILB coach and run game coordinator, while Jason Simmons has responsibility for DBs. Taken all together coaching has had a HUGE makeover.

I feel pretty positive about the whole coaching shakeup (with the exception of retaining Moss and his toxic attitude), though the proof is how things pan out, over time.

craig:

--- Quote from: OneTwoSixFive on July 08, 2018, 05:59:37 AM ---..Almost as important as the new players, is the totally re-done playbook, .... though the proof is how things pan out, over time.

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Will be interesting to see.  I think there have been a lot of hopeful thoughts about a totally re-done playbook. 

I think that seems fun and intriguing, and potentially effective.  But I'm guessing is that to me as a fan, the re-done playbook will look pretty much like the old playbook.  i think MM believes that his approach is good, and it's gotten him to the payoffs every Rodgers-healthy season.  So I don't anticipate radical re-design, or at least radical enough to be obvious to fans of my level?

I kinda suspect it may be more of a thorough "quality-control" evaluation.  Got a large playbook:
1.  Which of them when used have worked better? 
2.  Which of them haven't?  If so, why not? 
3.  Which are in the playbook, but haven't been used much?  If not why not? 

In each case, for each play, there would probably be analysis regarding players and execution.   
1.  To what degree were plays not used or not successful due to players rather than play design?  And if so, could be revitalized with new personnel executing? 
*For example, good plays that worked with Finley or Cook, but failed with no-speed Bennett and Cook?
*Or well-designed plays that didn't work consistently because they depended on Ty Montgomery blocking?
*Or plays designed to get a 1-on-1 WR matchup, which worked pretty well with Jordy/Driver/Jennings/Jones, but didn't work that well with 2017 Jordy/Janis/Allison? 

2.  To what degree were play-designs flawed, but could be vitalized by some finesse adjustments?  After studying the film, you see how things didn't work out right consistently.  But if you waited an extra step, or crossed a little sooner, or something, the tweaked version might improve? 

3.  Same for personnel packages: which personnel groups worked best and worst?
*For example, 2TE, or fullback, or 6th lineman, etc.. 

I believe they do this kind of analysis every year, to varying detail.  For example, MM has long liked use of fullback; but following 2016 the data showed sets including a fullback didn't work well.  So in 2017, fullback snaps dropped dramatically. 

4.  Of course it's possible that Philbin or other coaches will come in with some new ideas; that MM will think up/introduce some new plays; and that seeing plays that work for other teams, or  that have stressed the Packers defense, might be added. 

But overall, I suspect that the basic "look" of the offense won't really change very much.  Every team every year is trying to optimize all of its plays, to reduce usage of less effective plays, to coach the players to execute the plays optimally well, and to optimally fit the plays to the actual players on a given week, and the actual opponent matchups.   

So I suspect this is perhaps a more thorough consideration, but probably nothing real dramatic.  Add a few; tweak a bunch; and perhaps remove a bunch that just aren't going to get used anyway. 

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