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marklawrence:
https://lombardiave.com/2018/10/16/packers-12-steps-fixing-problems/amp/

Whiskey Sam:
Can't disagree with this. The Packers' problems are obvious, too, since every media outlet is seeing the same things which makes it baffling that the organization seems blind to them. Gutekunst did little to improve an already flawed roster inherited from Thompson. Awful lot like the end of Favre's career where he begged them to bring in a few big free agents that would put them over the top and show a commitment to "win now". Rodgers' clock is ticking, and we're still building for the future. McCarthy has been coasting for years and should have been gone after the Seattle fiasco. That no one was fired for that illustrated the lack of accountability within the organization. That seems to be a major problem in GB. No one is ever held accountable for poor performance in the front office or coaching staff so why should the players care about making the same mistakes week after week?

scoremore:

--- Quote from: Whiskey Sam on October 17, 2018, 08:09:28 AM ---Can't disagree with this. The Packers' problems are obvious, too, since every media outlet is seeing the same things which makes it baffling that the organization seems blind to them. Gutekunst did little to improve an already flawed roster inherited from Thompson. Awful lot like the end of Favre's career where he begged them to bring in a few big free agents that would put them over the top and show a commitment to "win now". Rodgers' clock is ticking, and we're still building for the future. McCarthy has been coasting for years and should have been gone after the Seattle fiasco. That no one was fired for that illustrated the lack of accountability within the organization. That seems to be a major problem in GB. No one is ever held accountable for poor performance in the front office or coaching staff so why should the players care about making the same mistakes week after week?

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Gute did a very good job this year.  Done little?  Totally disagree.  He had an excellent draft and brought in several FA's.  Rome wan't built in a day.  As for MM and Seattle he was playing the odds.  Let's see how the season plays out before jumping on the fire MM train.  I'll stand up for him he is an very good coach.  Agree with some points in the article but for the most part see it as an overreaction.  Cut Perry?  No.  Rebuild right side of the line?  Yes.  Kick returner? Yes.  Fire MM NO!  Jones can't pass block.  Add to WR?  Depends on Cobb.  Matthews should be re signed and moved inside.  Zook?  yes special teams have been a problem all year.  He needs to get this fixed now otherwise show him the door. 

I'll add Packer fans have become spoiled.  Be careful what you wish for.  I am not in the blow it up camp.  Do we have the horses this year?  Probably not we'll need another year to add a few more pieces.  Remember also Aaron is playing injured.  Very tough schedule coming up if Pack can take one of the next 2 games we'll be ok.  A lot of season left let's see how it shakes out.

skcusICH:
It's easy to say replace this guy and that guy and the team will be better. Every team and fan base recognizes that with their team.

This writer wants to replace 2 starting OLB's, a starting WR, a starting FS, a starting CB, a starting RT, a starting RG, your top backup tackle, a backup OLB, and find a return guy. If it was as simple as signing this guy and drafting that guy, every GM would be successful and teams wouldn't have holes. Finding a guy who is better than you already have isn't cut and dry.

It's going to take more draft capital and cap money than is available to actually see a meaningful improvement in all those areas.

It's a revolving door around the league. Every team faces it. You get one weak position group shored up and now you're facing the task of shoring up another weak group the following year. It's like road construction. It never ends. Rinse and repeat. You complete one area and it's always ready to start in another area. That's the NFL salary cap and structure at work. It's a good thing in my opinion.

Whiskey Sam:

--- Quote from: scoremore on October 17, 2018, 09:05:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Whiskey Sam on October 17, 2018, 08:09:28 AM ---Can't disagree with this. The Packers' problems are obvious, too, since every media outlet is seeing the same things which makes it baffling that the organization seems blind to them. Gutekunst did little to improve an already flawed roster inherited from Thompson. Awful lot like the end of Favre's career where he begged them to bring in a few big free agents that would put them over the top and show a commitment to "win now". Rodgers' clock is ticking, and we're still building for the future. McCarthy has been coasting for years and should have been gone after the Seattle fiasco. That no one was fired for that illustrated the lack of accountability within the organization. That seems to be a major problem in GB. No one is ever held accountable for poor performance in the front office or coaching staff so why should the players care about making the same mistakes week after week?

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Gute did a very good job this year.  Done little?  Totally disagree.  He had an excellent draft and brought in several FA's.  Rome wan't built in a day.  As for MM and Seattle he was playing the odds.  Let's see how the season plays out before jumping on the fire MM train.  I'll stand up for him he is an very good coach.  Agree with some points in the article but for the most part see it as an overreaction.  Cut Perry?  No.  Rebuild right side of the line?  Yes.  Kick returner? Yes.  Fire MM NO!  Jones can't pass block.  Add to WR?  Depends on Cobb.  Matthews should be re signed and moved inside.  Zook?  yes special teams have been a problem all year.  He needs to get this fixed now otherwise show him the door. 

I'll add Packer fans have become spoiled.  Be careful what you wish for.  I am not in the blow it up camp.  Do we have the horses this year?  Probably not we'll need another year to add a few more pieces.  Remember also Aaron is playing injured.  Very tough schedule coming up if Pack can take one of the next 2 games we'll be ok.  A lot of season left let's see how it shakes out.

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Ah, the ever popular, "Packers fans are spoiled" excuse for the team underperforming year after year. Nevermind that during McCarthy's tenure, the Colts, Giants, Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, and Broncos have been to more Super Bowls despite Green Bay having two Hall of Fame QBs in that span. McCarthy is a mediocre coach, at best, who has been carried by two premier QBs. The moment they've been gone, his teams aren't even competitive. He hasn't developed a single backup in a decade who could even perform at a journeyman level. He would be the most overrated coach in the league except he never comes up in any discussions of best coaches currently coaching.

Rome wasn't built in a day? How many draft picks have we spent on the defense over the last few years and still have zero pass rush, no safeties who can figure out where they're supposed to be, or any game-changing talent on the defensive side of the ball. We have watched running backs routinely run around the end and gouge them for big gains this season because there is no speed on the defense. But guys make up for it by not being able to tackle when they're in position. If Gute were serious about winning now, he would have made the move for Mack and/or Thomas and found a way to reduce the cost of overpaid veterans like Cobb and Matthews. This organization has been far too content for far too long to win a crappy division every year and get bounced in the second round of the playoffs while thinking they're the Patriots of the NFC.

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