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Offline PackerJoe

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Re: Is it Coaching or Personnel?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2018, 06:45:31 AM »
Coaching has been pathetic, time for new blood here.  Talent in some positions, others none (LB) 

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Re: Is it Coaching or Personnel?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2018, 05:37:45 AM »
I'll stand by MM come hell or high water.  Wish the Packers would extend him and end this discussion.  He's a fine coach.  Packers have been snake bit this year.  A number of questionable calls and injuries most notable AR.  Hiring a new coach makes me quite nervous.  Odds of finding someone better than MM is probably less than 20%.  A coaching change will disrupt the organization and we'll most likely regress at least for next season anyway.  Zook however needs to go.  Way too many stupid penalties on special teams.  We can't get a return off without a flag flying. 

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Re: Is it Coaching or Personnel?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2018, 02:21:02 PM »
Coaching or personnel??  That is a great question and my answer is it is both. 

Coaching - For the first time, MM has addressed the rumors and that is usually the first indication that he knows he is in trouble.  As many have pointed out, it appears MM's message has faded and his offense has fallen behind the times.   The continued lack of a coherent game plan and/or play calling offensively appears to have lost the confidence of his QB who is going to go down as one of the greats.  And, Rodgers clearly loves his numbers and without being held accountable for changing the plays, says a lot about MM.  The continued thumbing their nose at any type of running game now with an RB that produces has to be addressed. 

How MM has held onto Ron Zook is also a reason for change. He did the same with Dom Capers and he allows his loyalty to these guys overrule performance.  The special teams continually put this team in bad position and rarely it feels like that a penalty doesn't occur on any type of return.  The addition of Pettine has been a positive and it has been refreshing to see the new scheme, but it feels like MM isn't totally on board with things.  Pettine is a firey guy and appears to hold guys feet to the fire.  Ask HaHa and Whitehead.  Make plays, you play.  Don't make plays, you don't. 

Personnel - Yes this is an issue.  The lack of draft production is hurting this team bad.  Hitting 0 for the 2015 draft is a killer.  Those guys should be core players of this team now and to have no one is un-excusable.  Combining that with some curious picks and passing of known talent has hurt.   

Failing to address the OL has left it without depth and without a replacement at RT or RG.  Failure to address the OLB position has left the team with two highly paid and non productive players.  Failure to address the S position left it with a malcontent that had to be traded mid season because he was a detriment to the team has left some free agents being on the field. 

Allowing one of the fixtures of the organization leave in Jordy Nelson even after he offered to take a huge pay cut was a bad move.  And now, lots of talk of how the inexperienced WR corps don't always have the trust of Rodgers.  To replace Nelson - Jimmy Graham - coming off some serious injury issues and by most accounts is far removed from being a top end TE. 

Changes have been made in the front office - on defense - but, the offense under the direction of MM has not changed and stalled out. 

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Re: Is it Coaching or Personnel?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2018, 02:38:52 PM »
Read a post on another site where a guy who knows someone inside the Packers organization said that Rodgers has been changing the play in the huddle, playing sandlot football, and that's why they tend to run down the clock frequently. He's at odds with MM and making it up as he goes.

rumors are usually that..........just rumors, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Is it Coaching or Personnel?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2018, 04:31:21 PM »
Read a post on another site where a guy who knows someone inside the Packers organization said that Rodgers has been changing the play in the huddle, playing sandlot football, and that's why they tend to run down the clock frequently. He's at odds with MM and making it up as he goes.


Damn, that is just awful nonsense... It's amazing how desperate some Packer fans are to throw Rodgers under the bus...  facepalm)

If fans really want to analyze what's going on with Rodgers, it's not that difficult... But, sadly, a lot of Packer fans are just hatin' on him- awful

For this poster that "knows someone inside the Packers organization" (yeah), he/she instantly lost credibility when he/she mentioned running down the clock... See, Rodgers has been doing that for years. Now, all of a sudden,  it's because Rodgers has gone rogue and playing sandlot football...  banghead 

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Re: Is it Coaching or Personnel?
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2018, 10:16:01 AM »
Last year it was TT's fault for not having a good backup QB when Rodgers got hurt....Poor Brett Hundley went 3-6 and got traded.

Rodgers is back...maybe somewhat hurt yet...now it is MM fault for a 4-5-1 record.

Rodgers is also ranked 14th in passer ratings...

Our QB is having a terrible year...not $30M worth

I do think MM needs to adjust his scheme...use the RB more in the passing game. Jones had most of his 63 yds receiving in the 1st half alone...disappeared in the 2nd half