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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2018, 05:15:25 AM »
It is necessary to determine what we need from the draft and what we need in free agency....For the most part, the draft provides backups and maybe one or two starter and free agency a starter hopefully with some experience...

As for the draft, with two first rounders, two starters is a possibility...I think our priority should be an edge rusher and if it takes both ones to go up we should do it...the next need is a safety and one with experience so that means free agency...third  right side of the line needs new blood, the draft for one position and free agency for the other...fourth a tight end with size, speed and youth can be found in draft as long as we have Graham...finally a cover inside backer to complement Martinez hopefully one young with some experience...
1.  edge rusher best in the draft
2.  safety, best in free agency
3.  offensive line, draft and free agency
4.  tight end, top 3 or 4 pick
5.  inside cover linebacker, free agency


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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2018, 05:54:55 AM »
People may want to use some caution before jumping to a hard take on what is priorities this coming off season. On the defensive side of the ball much will depend on who is running the defense, if Pettine is retained the priorities very well could be different than if a new defensive leader is hired. When Capers was hired his defense was build around a top NT and Edge rushers that flew around like their hair was on fire. The reason Raji and Matthews were important picks early on for Capers success. The funny part was that even though ILBers played a low number of snaps and were a low priority in his defense, some fans still lamented every year about the need to draft an ILB high in the draft. With reviewing the history of Pettine's (and Buddy Ryan's) defenses you will find that wildmen edge rushers have never been the highest priority. Their defenses are and were built with human wreaking balls collapsing the pocket as interior rushers and as many cover corners as they can possibly find. Edge players in their defenses often are just contain players and not primarily rushers of the QB.   

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2018, 07:29:30 AM »
Well, others can chime in here, but a huge need at Safety could be addressed with DJ Swearinger.  I know his tenure in Washington was not always the smoothest, but, this is a guy that has had success - is a veteran - and has the mentality of an enforcer.  Not sure what others are up for with him, but he would fill a pretty big need on the back end of the defense. 

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2018, 10:05:08 AM »
Well, others can chime in here, but a huge need at Safety could be addressed with DJ Swearinger.  I know his tenure in Washington was not always the smoothest, but, this is a guy that has had success - is a veteran - and has the mentality of an enforcer.  Not sure what others are up for with him, but he would fill a pretty big need on the back end of the defense.


The coaching unknowns make it hard to speculate on if Swearinger is an option or not. He would not be a choice of mine, but if Pettine is retained I could see it as a possibility. The Pettine defenses always seem to have that veteran, coach on the field type of safety when they have done best and if retained I expect that will be the type of safety added to the roster in the off season. As for right now, I don't think that Gute would saddle a new staff with a known problem child without some input from the new head coach. IMO

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2018, 11:24:35 AM »
We can speculate all we want, but the order of transition will be (1) New HC, (2) New coaching staff, (3) shopping in FA, (4) NFL Draft.

All of the coaching changes will have long been made before FA arrives and the draft will happen several weeks after any key FA’s may have been added.

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2018, 02:18:56 PM »
We can speculate all we want, but the order of transition will be (1) New HC, (2) New coaching staff, (3) shopping in FA, (4) NFL Draft.

All of the coaching changes will have long been made before FA arrives and the draft will happen several weeks after any key FA’s may have been added.


I got that danno, but I was aiming at the decision to claim Swearinger or not to claim him. Which is all for not now, the Cardinals claimed him off waivers today.

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2018, 07:13:13 AM »
This defense needs an attitude adjustment.  Other teams do not fear this defense.  Need to rid ourselves of Mathews and Perry and free up salary cap for 2020.  For 2019, we need a one or two pass rushing specialists.  Depth in this year's draft is outstanding at that position.  I'll agree we need a safety, terribly disappointed by the play this year.  Need leadership and tenacity.  Our linebackers suck!!!!! 

With that in mind, for the draft DE PASS rush specialists include (Allens, Sweat, Williams, Ferrell, etc.)  One or two should be around by the time we pick.  At the DT position, Oliver is dropping and Tillery from ND would be a nice addition in late 1 or 2.  Everyone is talking about a safety.  I'll give you one name, Jonathan Abrams from Miss. State.  He's better than Adams and he's twice as good as Jones! Perhaps we can get another via free agency.  At LB, the next Wayne Simmons - Deandre Walker from Georgia.  He's a beast, has an attitude and plays pass defense.  Can't keep him off the field, he loves special teams.  He was overshadowed by Smith last year, but he shined a lot in 2018.  Don't believe, pull up a highlight film on him.  Google his name and watch the tape!

On offense, one of our top three picks need to be an OL.  I like Cody Ford from Oklahoma.  Road grading guard!  Unfortunately, he's moving up.  We need someone to protect Rodgers.  He won't last long if he has another a third season with injuries!  I agree with RB.  I wanted the Packers to draft Josh Adams, the ND rb in Rd. 5 last year.  Yeah, he's playing well for the Eagles.  Instead we drafted a punter!  So, I think we draft a big WR that moves the chains and is deadly in the red zone.  That guy would be Myles Boykin from ND.  He's 6'5' about 245 lbs. and is a cornerback nightmare.  He's got a few TD's this year and is the best blocking WR in the NCAA.  Can he get bigger and play TE ala Finley?  Worth a 5th rd pick, maybe 4th.  He has a year of eligibility left but, he may leave depending on how ND does.     



   

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2018, 11:30:12 AM »
This defense needs an attitude adjustment.  Other teams do not fear this defense.  Need to rid ourselves of Mathews and Perry and free up salary cap for 2020.  For 2019, we need a one or two pass rushing specialists.  Depth in this year's draft is outstanding at that position.  I'll agree we need a safety, terribly disappointed by the play this year.  Need leadership and tenacity.  Our linebackers suck!!!!! 

Look, you can forget dumping Perry. You would have the double-trouble of sucking up over $11m in dead cap and also replacing all the snaps he and Matthews took this year with snaps by rookies. Matthews is in the last year of his contract, so you can let him walk, but his loss still means a lot of snaps have to be taken with someone else, very likely a rookie. That is more than enough for the coaching staff and the team to deal with. Sometimes the contract implications make what you want to do impossible (or at least unreasonable).
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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2018, 12:10:44 PM »
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robreischel/2018/11/18/five-high-priced-veterans-unlikely-to-return-in-green-bay/#7407488f7c05

This article lays things out pretty good about the contracts of some of those highly paid vets.  Letting Perry go actually saves cap space. 

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2018, 08:01:19 PM »
Just an FYI danno, Kyle Murphy was NOT released along with Rollins and Mayes and has been carried on their IR with full salary for the whole season. Reading the tea leaves may lead some to believe that the Packers may have a future plan for him and I would agree that it is not out of the question. It will be interesting to watch that playout.

So he is!

I guess this article must have been in error then. If so, then it's my mistake.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/02/packers-releasing-quinten-rollins-kyle-murphy-and-devante-mays-with-injury-settlements/

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Three players put on injured reserve during cutdowns Saturday will be waived/injured by the Green Bay Packers.

According to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers are releasing defensive back Quinten Rollins, offensive tackle Kyle Murphy and running back Devante Mays with injury settlements.


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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2018, 02:06:54 PM »
This defense needs an attitude adjustment.  Other teams do not fear this defense.  Need to rid ourselves of Mathews and Perry and free up salary cap for 2020.  For 2019, we need a one or two pass rushing specialists.  Depth in this year's draft is outstanding at that position.  I'll agree we need a safety, terribly disappointed by the play this year.  Need leadership and tenacity.  Our linebackers suck!!!!! 

With that in mind, for the draft DE PASS rush specialists include (Allens, Sweat, Williams, Ferrell, etc.)  One or two should be around by the time we pick.  At the DT position, Oliver is dropping and Tillery from ND would be a nice addition in late 1 or 2.  Everyone is talking about a safety.  I'll give you one name, Jonathan Abrams from Miss. State.  He's better than Adams and he's twice as good as Jones! Perhaps we can get another via free agency.  At LB, the next Wayne Simmons - Deandre Walker from Georgia.  He's a beast, has an attitude and plays pass defense.  Can't keep him off the field, he loves special teams.  He was overshadowed by Smith last year, but he shined a lot in 2018.  Don't believe, pull up a highlight film on him.  Google his name and watch the tape!

On offense, one of our top three picks need to be an OL.  I like Cody Ford from Oklahoma.  Road grading guard!  Unfortunately, he's moving up.  We need someone to protect Rodgers.  He won't last long if he has another a third season with injuries!  I agree with RB.  I wanted the Packers to draft Josh Adams, the ND rb in Rd. 5 last year.  Yeah, he's playing well for the Eagles.  Instead we drafted a punter!  So, I think we draft a big WR that moves the chains and is deadly in the red zone.  That guy would be Myles Boykin from ND.  He's 6'5' about 245 lbs. and is a cornerback nightmare.  He's got a few TD's this year and is the best blocking WR in the NCAA.  Can he get bigger and play TE ala Finley?  Worth a 5th rd pick, maybe 4th.  He has a year of eligibility left but, he may leave depending on how ND does.     



   


I like the kid from Geogia but he reminds me more of a SS I feel as though we need more of a centerfielder Safety. He reminds me more of a in the box safety. I am lukewarm on him tbh.
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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2018, 08:05:07 AM »
Just an FYI danno, Kyle Murphy was NOT released along with Rollins and Mayes and has been carried on their IR with full salary for the whole season. Reading the tea leaves may lead some to believe that the Packers may have a future plan for him and I would agree that it is not out of the question. It will be interesting to watch that playout.

So he is!

I guess this article must have been in error then. If so, then it's my mistake.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/02/packers-releasing-quinten-rollins-kyle-murphy-and-devante-mays-with-injury-settlements/

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Three players put on injured reserve during cutdowns Saturday will be waived/injured by the Green Bay Packers.

According to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers are releasing defensive back Quinten Rollins, offensive tackle Kyle Murphy and running back Devante Mays with injury settlements.


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GB waived  Kyle Murphy from injury reserve today.
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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2018, 01:14:10 PM »
top-5 off season needs:

1. Offensive playmakers
2. Defensive playmakers
3. Special teams talent
4. Coaching staff
5. GM with real GM powers

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2018, 01:43:01 PM »
 They need help everywhere except: QB, LT, C, TE, DT, and maybe CB. There is so many needs to cover in one off-season, that next year could be just a 8-8 type season. Like I have said for a long time, Mark Murphy was asleep at the wheel for the past three years.

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Re: Your Top 5 Positional Priorities (2019 Offseason)...
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2018, 01:50:58 PM »
They need help everywhere except: QB, LT, C, TE, DT, and maybe CB. There is so many needs to cover in one off-season, that next year could be just a 8-8 type season. Like I have said for a long time, Mark Murphy was asleep at the wheel for the past three years.

TE needs an upgrade. This year was no were near good enough.