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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2019, 02:49:30 PM »
McCray to Browns for an undisclosed swap of draft picks. Probably contingent on him making the team, and his performance this season.

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/8/31/20842562/packers-trade-ol-justin-mccray-to-browns-for-draft-pick-swap
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2019, 03:43:28 PM »
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QB (2): 12 Aaron Rodgers, 8 Tim Boyle

Released: 9 DeShone Kizer, 18 Manny Wilkins

RB (3): 33 Aaron Jones, 30 Jamaal Williams, 22 Dexter Williams

Released: 32 Tra Carson, RB Keith Ford

FB (1): 45 Danny Vitale

Released: 48 Tommy Bohanon

Waived/injured: 46 Malcolm Johnson

WR (6): 17 Davante Adams, 83 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, 81 Geronimo Allison, 11 Trevor Davis, 16 Jake Kumerow, 10 Darrius Shepherd

Released: 88 Teo Redding, 86 Malik Taylor, 82 J’Mon Moore, 13 Allen Lazard

Injured reserve: 19 Equanimeous St. Brown

TE (4): 80 Jimmy Graham, 89 Marcedes Lewis, 85 Robert Tonyan, 87 Jace Sternberger

Released: 84 Pharaoh McKever, 49 Evan Baylis

OL (9): 75 Bryan Bulaga, 69 David Bakhtiari, 65 Lane Taylor, 77 Billy Turner, 63 Corey Linsley, 74 Elgton Jenkins, 62 Lucas Patrick, 70 Alex Light, 61 Cole Madison

Released: 71 Anthony Coyle, 72 Gerhard de Beer, 68 Dejon Allen, 73 Yosh Nijman, 57 Adam Pankey

Traded: 64 Justin McCray

 

DL (6): 97 Kenny Clark, 94 Dean Lowry, 90 Montravius Adams, 95 Tyler Lancaster, 96 Kingsley Keke, 98 Fadol Brown

Released: 79 Deon Simon, 99 James Looney, 67 Olive Sagapolu

OLB (4): 55 Za’Darius Smith, 91 Preston Smith, 51 Kyler Fackrell, 52 Rashan Gary

Released: 49 James Folston, 56 Randy Ramsey, 59 Markus Jones

Traded: 93 Reggie Gilbert

PUP: 57 Greg Roberts

ILB (4): 50 Blake Martinez, 42 Oren Burks, 54 James Crawford, 44 Ty Summers

Released: 58 Brady Sheldon

Waived/injured: 40 Curtis Bolton

CB (7): 23 Jaire Alexander, 20 Kevin King, 38 Tramon Williams, 37 Josh Jackson, 28 Tony Brown, 29 Ka’dar Hollman, 39 Chandon Sullivan

Released: 41 Nydair Rouse, 47 Jocquez Kalili, 24 Jackson Porter, 48 Kabion Ento

S (4): 31 Adrian Amos, 26 Darnell Savage, 36 Raven Greene, 25 Will Redmond

Released: 34 Tray Matthews, 21 Natrell Jamerson

PUP: 35 Ibraheim Campbell

Specialists (3): 2 Mason Crosby, 6 JK Scott, 43 Hunter Bradley

Released: 7 Sam Ficken

Here are some noteworthy items:

The initial roster consists of 25 offensive players, 25 defensive players, and three specialists.

Only one undrafted rookie made the roster, WR Darrius Shepherd. ...

All told, 16 former college free agents currently are on the Packers’ 53.
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2019, 03:45:58 PM »
I should know this by know, but if EQ is already on the IR now, that means he's out for the year and can NOT be recalled after 8 weeks, right?  No shot at coming back this season? 
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2019, 04:00:09 PM »
This was posted on another site, but worth putting here.

In the past, prior to the final cutdown date, injured players with less than four years of service could not go onto IR without first passing through waivers. A 2018 NFL By-Laws change has made it no longer necessary to place non-vested veterans on Injury-Waivers before placing them on IR. In the past, the need for Injury Waivers caused teams to risk losing the player to a waiver claim and on occasion some teams took advantage of this to poach players. As such, teams would often continue to carry the player on the 90-man roster until the final cutdown in order to not risk losing the player. The new By-Law solves this issue and non-vested veterans can now go directly onto IR without having to first pass through Waivers.
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2019, 04:39:26 PM »
When will practice squad signings start? Lazard would be great to keep stashed in case of injury.
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2019, 06:33:20 PM »
You are correct craig, the rule change does not help St. Brown, he is done for 2019. A player must be on the 53-man roster in Week 1 to be eligible for the IR designation to return. That means, anyone who was placed on IR before roster cuts were made to trim the roster down to 53 players is not eligible
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2019, 06:36:51 PM »
When will practice squad signings start? Lazard would be great to keep stashed in case of injury.

NFL teams may begin constructing their practice squad rosters at roughly 1 p.m. ET on Sunday, Aug. 1.
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2019, 06:42:38 PM »
So, PS starts at noon tomorrow after all the waiver claims fly through tonight and tomorrow morning.

Man, those GM's have to act fast.  Cuts this afternoon, within less then 24 hours they need to decide whether to place any waiver claims on the thousand players that got waived today. 

And very quickly also need to decide whether to pursue guys waived elsewhere for PS, versus just resigning your own cuts.  Got to act fast, I'd say! 

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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2019, 06:47:14 PM »
So, if I'm recalling tweets or whatever, I think I've read that the Packers will offer PS to the following guys, if they go unclaimed and want to sign with us versus somebody else:
Baylis
Nijman
Looney

Others?

I assume:
Wilkins
Lazard
Ramsey or Jones

I'd like:
Possibly Allen, the OG from Bears?
Kabion Ento

I'd probably hunt else where for a RB who got cut.
Perhaps an ILB too? 

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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2019, 06:51:02 PM »
Exactly! No sleep this weekend for front office personnel, coaches, agents and players hoping to latch on to another team (53 or practice squad)
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2019, 08:01:00 PM »
1. Any guesses on whether we'll add anybody, or if so at which positions? 

2.  Any guesses on who'll get bumped off if we do? 

3.  Any guess on whether Burks will get IR'd tomorrow? 

4.  If so, any guess as to which individual, or else which position group, will get the replacement player? 

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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2019, 08:18:07 PM »
Personal note on today's roster:  I'm a big Buildican type guy, and an optimist who loves the idea and the sometimes-reality of young guys developing. 

From that perspective, I like the roster.  There are a LOT of young players with the chance to develop; I'm hopeful that many of them will do so. 

I also like some of the case-by-case decisions.  Madison didn't show much in x games, but I like that they kept Madison, who hypothetically might mature into a good player, over the veteran McCray.  McCray is probably better now, and there's an obviously strong chance that Madison will never get to be even as OK as McCray is now.  But I like going with the newer guy who might future-leap over the conservative vet who's never going to be more than a back-of-the-room depth guy. 

Likewise glad they kept young Dexter W over the veteran but lower-ceilinged Tra Carson.  Dexter is pretty obviously incompetent at this point in blocking and man of the aspects of the offense; but clearly his future ceiling, at least as a runner, is much higher.  Probably he'll never be any good, or polished enough to get used.  But there's at least a chance that with a year with the Packers, that perhaps he'll develop and turn into a capable professional, who also happens to be a pretty good runner.   

Likewise very pleased that they didn't waste two spots on Kizer and Boyle. 

I'm also pleased that Gute cut Kizer and Moore.  Not that I wanted those two guys in particular gone or to be failures.  But Moore was a 4th round pick only last year, and Kizer a high-profile trade acquisition.  Often GM's tend to like their guys too much, and stick with their mistakes too long.  I like that Gute was willing to recognize a couple of goof-ups and to move on. 

Also quite pleased that both Sullivan and Redmon, as well as Holliman, were all kept in the secondary.  Most likely both will end up going the way of Josh Hawkins and Dorleant and Evans and Jennings and the million other secondary guys who have gotten a roster spot in hopes of development, but never actually did.  But secondary guys who can play are SO valuable, that I'm much inclined towards keeping any who have a chance, and hoping one or more of them does develop and emerge as a real NFL player.  Probably won't ever be good, but I'm happier keeping those "who-knows" prospects over established not-so-hot vets like Pankey or Gilbert or McCray. 

So, I like the roster decisions that Gute and MM made.  I think it's a shame they didn't have somebody more high-ceiling that Shepherd to keep, though!  I think it's super cool that an NDSU guy made the team, but I kinda think that's more an indictment on the low quality at the back of the roster than on what a compelling prospect Shepherd is?


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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2019, 09:18:08 PM »
Brian Hoyer was released today by the Pats. Sure, he's not a great QB, but would it be worthwhile for the Packers to bring him in for a tryout? After all, we've been talking about a veteran backup for Rodgers. And yes, this is the quality of backup you could expect to get, because the pickings are mighty, mighty slim. When some sites are suggesting Brock Osweiler as a backup, you know it's desperation time.
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Re: The 53 Game
« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2019, 10:13:24 AM »
QB -Rodgers, Boyle
RB - Jones, Williams, (Ford/gone) (add D. Williams)
FB - Vitale, (Bohanon/gone)
TE - Graham, Tonyan, Lewis
WR - Adams, MVS, Allison, (ESB/IR), Lazard, Shepherd, Davis (add Kumerow)
OL - Bak, BB, Taylor, Turner, Linsley, Jenkins, Light, Madison (add Patrick)
Offense=25

OLB - Z Smith, P Smith, Gary, Fackrell, (Ramsey/gone)
ILB - Martinez, (Bolton/gone), (Crawford/gone), Summer (add Burks and Goodson)
DL - Clark, Lowry, Adams, Keke, Lancaster, Brown
CB - Tramon, Alexander, Brown, Jackson, (Ento/PS), Sullivan (add King and Hollman...….I must have dementia. How could I have forgotten them before?)
S - Amos, Savage, Greene, (Jones/gone) (add Redmond)
Defense = 25

K - Crosby
P - Scott
LS - Bradley
ST’s =3

PUP - Campbell, Roberts
IR - Sternberger
(add ESB/IR)

Far from correct when they made the final cuts. But the roster changes since last week have aligned the game day roster closer to what I was thinking.